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ZZZzzz…] 09:25 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-73-92-181-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 09:26 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:40 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@185.194.187.3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:45 < kanzure> "How to simultaneously exchange a secret bit by flipping a symmetrically-biased coin" https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4568055 09:46 -!- hugohn [~textual@rrcs-184-74-240-156.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:46 < kanzure> "Rational secret sharing and multiparty computation" https://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0609035.pdf namely the first half of section 1 09:50 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07 -!- FractalUniverse [~Miranda@ndx5.milnet.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:08 -!- mryandao_ [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:08 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:09 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@185.194.187.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:13 -!- mappum_ [uid43795@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmwpajoazcksnucg] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:13 -!- mappum_ is now known as mappum 10:14 -!- hugohn [~textual@rrcs-184-74-240-156.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I think you could have a signatory set do everything a lightning node needs to do, via musig and Pedersen secret sharing 10:32 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:37 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:37 -!- FractalUniverse [~Miranda@ndx5.milnet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37 -!- FractalUniverse [~Miranda@ndx5.milnet.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:42 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:51 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@198.8.81.205] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:55 -!- FractalUniverse [~Miranda@ndx5.milnet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00 -!- Guest12503 [~serAphim@195.206.169.238] has quit [] 11:08 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:11 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@cpc139350-aztw33-2-0-cust310.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-199-19.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:16 -!- alferz [~alferz@unaffiliated/alfer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:21 -!- spinza [~spin@102.132.245.16] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 11:25 -!- alferz [~alferz@unaffiliated/alfer] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:27 -!- spinza [~spin@102.132.245.16] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:30 -!- sipa [~pw@gateway/tor-sasl/sipa1024] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:30 -!- surja795 [~sourabh@76.118.169.20] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:32 -!- sipa [~pw@gateway/tor-sasl/sipa1024] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:39 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:41 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:42 -!- shortdudey1231 [~shortdude@141.98.101.133] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:58 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:05 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:15 < digi_james> adiabat: Hello, I enjoyed the utreexo paper very much and am looking to better understand some lingering questions. Many thanks in advance! 12:15 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@107.181.189.46] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:16 < digi_james> 1) For a compact state node with fully pruned Pollard forests (just roots), it would seem adding/subtracting accumulator would require more than just the UTXO proofs from bridge nodes. I am unsure of how such a verifying node with pruned forests would figure out which nodes it would need in addition to the proofs ... 12:16 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@107.181.189.46] has quit [Changing host] 12:16 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:16 < digi_james> ... is this algo documented somewhere or described in the pollard.go class? I believe the paper only describes operations on full forests. 12:16 < digi_james> 2) In your presentation with IBD with 11GB memory dedicated to the UTXO accumulator and no bandwidth (proof) used, I presume no additional accumulator data was stored on disk? For all these examples, all accumulators were stored in memory, no disk, is this correct? 12:16 < digi_james> 3) I am wondering whether a memory-mapped file storing the accumulator could further help reduce RAM and bandwidth usage? Short-lived UTXO will be on the warm side and tend to reside in memory, but parts of forest can be retrieved from disk by OS when needed. 12:30 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@cpc139350-aztw33-2-0-cust310.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:34 -!- surja795 [~sourabh@76.118.169.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:36 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:56 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@198.8.81.205] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 12:56 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:59 -!- hugohn [~textual@12.246.51.142] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:02 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:03 -!- hugohn [~textual@12.246.51.142] has quit [Client Quit] 13:12 -!- AbuseOfNotation [~AbuseOfNo@217.151.98.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:20 -!- hugohn [~textual@12.246.51.142] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:22 -!- hugohn [~textual@12.246.51.142] has quit [Client Quit] 13:22 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-73-92-181-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:00 -!- shortdudey1231 [~shortdude@141.98.101.133] has quit [] 14:12 -!- gnomus [~gnomus@185.103.96.147] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:30 -!- amiti [sid373138@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pcrjviamwfbkfkey] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:30 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:34 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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