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[AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:24 -!- AbramAdelmo [AbramAdelm@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/abramadelmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:26 < tromp_> apologies if i asked this before and forgot:( given a bulletproof rangeproof for commitment C=r\*G+v\*H, does one need knowledge of r to make a rangeproof for C+G ? 13:33 < sipa> well arguably you could just tell the verifier "subtract G, and here is a rangeproof for the result" 13:33 < sipa> that would be a valid rangeproof :p 13:33 < sipa> (i know that's not what you mean, and i don't know the answer if the result needs to be a pure standalone bulletproof) 13:34 -!- morcos [~morcos@gateway/tor-sasl/morcos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 -!- morcos [~morcos@gateway/tor-sasl/morcos] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:42 -!- son0p [~son0p@181.136.122.143] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:43 < tromp_> yes, i'm asking if you could mess with other people's utxo's in MW by transacting to tweak their blinding factors 13:44 < tromp_> obviously, you can sign for the excess, but can you tweak the rangeproofs? 13:45 < nsh> tromp_, ask perhaps in #monero-research-lounge 13:45 < tromp_> i unfortunately don't understand bulletproofs well enough to answer 13:45 -!- Krellan_ [~Krellan@c-24-130-205-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:47 < sarang> You can't modify a bulletproof for a commitment into another bulletproof for a different commitment in that way, if I'm understanding your particular requirements 13:48 -!- aupiff [~aupiff@172.58.227.5] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:49 < tromp_> thx, sarang. happy to hear that 13:49 < sarang> A valid proof is an assurance that the prover knew the value and mask for the commitment 13:50 < sarang> Generating a valid proof without those would break soundness 13:51 -!- aupiff [~aupiff@172.58.227.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56 -!- Krellan_ 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