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error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:29 < uiuc-slack> Hello 09:29 < uiuc-slack> @amiller and I were discussing the technical changes needed to blockchain like Bitcoin and Zcash in order to build a AMM (automated market maker)-based DEX 09:32 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in] 09:42 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:43 -!- dllud_ [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:44 -!- dllud_ [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Client Quit] 09:48 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:56 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 < uiuc-slack> Even ignoring the zcash part, it's a question about a uniswap like AMM would look in the UTXO model 10:05 < uiuc-slack> I think any instruction added to bitcoin script to support an AMM would necessarily break reorg compatibility 10:06 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:11 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhgdrsxqezjawwew] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:13 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:17 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:18 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:20 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:28 < yanmaani> DEXes are stupid. People don't trade anything of value on them. They add no value. 10:28 < yanmaani> Centralized exchanges already do everything people need them to, in terms of futures, and in terms of spot, DEXes are not able to deliver either. 10:40 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:43 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:45 -!- glozow [uid453516@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lxcudkvmddtskoef] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:47 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:53 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:57 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:08 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:08 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:11 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:13 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:18 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:36 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:43 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:02 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:04 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:07 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:16 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:16 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:18 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:27 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:54 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:57 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:04 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:21 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:24 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:24 -!- Setherson [~Setherson@108-255-110-61.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26 -!- son0p [~son0p@181.136.122.143] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:51 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:00 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:03 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:39 -!- Guyver2 [Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:58 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:10 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:17 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 15:21 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:32 -!- son0p [~son0p@181.136.122.143] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:55 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:57 < uiuc-slack> Isn't this true for any (or most) instruction additions or substractions to bitcoin script? 15:58 < uiuc-slack> i don't think so, like for example checklocktimeverify was a recent addition to bitcoin script 15:59 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:29 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:05 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:07 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:29 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:02 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:19 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 < uiuc-slack> Is checklocktimeverify a pure function? 18:26 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26 < uiuc-slack> It's not that its a pure function, many opcodes that are pure functions could still be a problem 18:26 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:27 < uiuc-slack> Basically first of all, with checklocktimeverify he resulting UTXOs are fully described when the transaction is signed 18:28 < uiuc-slack> With something like OP_UNISWAP, to implement it seems like you'd have to have resulting UTXOs rhat depend on the price offered by the market maker, which could move based on other tx in the block 18:32 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:50 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:56 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:57 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in] 18:58 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhgdrsxqezjawwew] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:05 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:16 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:21 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:35 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:40 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41 -!- mryandao_ [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:43 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:45 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47 -!- laptop__ [~laptop@ppp-3-140.leed-a-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:54 -!- ByronT [~ByronT@195.140.213.38] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 < aj> amiller: you need two assets for uniswap to manage; but assuming you have a multi-asset utxo thing like liquid, you then need a covenant that lets you have a utxo of asset A and a utxo of asset B, and allows you to "spend" both, creating a new utxo of asset A, a new utxo of asset B, where the balance of one increases, the balance of the other decreases, and the change matches the AMM rule. not sure if 19:54 < aj> liquid's script has good enough covenant things to examine the balances easily 19:58 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:00 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:07 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:12 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:17 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:18 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:41 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:42 -!- dllud_ [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:42 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43 -!- dllud_ is now known as dllud 20:45 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Client Quit] 20:46 -!- amueller [~amueller@185.103.96.147] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:52 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:04 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:05 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:07 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:10 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:23 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:43 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in] 22:04 -!- jadi [~jadi@93.117.189.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:09 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:17 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in] 22:31 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:32 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Client Quit] 22:41 -!- jadi [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:45 -!- jadijadi [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:45 -!- jadi_ [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:46 -!- jadi [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:50 -!- jadijadi [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:11 -!- dllud [~dllud@unaffiliated/dllud] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:37 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:38 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:46 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:54 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:56 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:57 -!- jadi [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:58 -!- jadi_ [~jadi@80.71.124.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Jan 02 00:00:04 2021