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08:26 < andytoshi> heh, well, no real coordination/work distribution is needed
08:27 < andytoshi> you could just write a python script that called the existing fuzztests and distribute that
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10:12 < jb55> proof of fuzz
10:13 < CubicEarth> andytoshi: interesting. To be noob friendly, the script should automatically report any errors found. And to help know the extent of the fuzzy space searched, it should also periodically report back on work performed...
10:14 < CubicEarth> jb55: yes :)
10:17 < jb55> compile to wasm so people can run fuzzers by opening a webpage :P leave it open and get a reward when a bug is found
10:18 < CubicEarth> jb55: is there an equivalent of a partial-hash collision... too smooth the payouts? I'm guessing the bugs are pretty rare?
10:20 < andytoshi> this all sounds like good ideas
10:20 < andytoshi> but no, i can't think of any sane notion of "partial progress"
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10:29 < CubicEarth> well it would be fun to try out anyway. paying for a found bug would be a cool incentive. But yeah, if there is a way to have people find results somewhat frequently, that would take it to the next level
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12:07 < yanmaani> don't think it'd be profitable to fuzz, but maybe a fun thing
12:07 < yanmaani> Is compute power really the bottleneck tho?
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12:12 < andytoshi> for fuzzing? yes
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20:53 < CubicEarth> yanmaani: It is profitable in the sense that it helps to achieve the intended goal of secure software
20:58 < yanmaani> CubicEarth: Yeah, but I mean is compute power the bottleneck? Will throwing X CPUs at it make Bitcoin measurably more secure?
21:00 < CubicEarth> You are thinking of it backwards
21:01 < CubicEarth> There is a given level of security based on the code that is written. And clearly people think a given part of code would be secure against certain types of issues, or otherwise they would rewrite it until they thought it to be so
21:02 < CubicEarth> Fuzz testing is one way of testing those assumptions. If there certain types of flaws in the code, well designed fuzz testing may expose them
21:03 < CubicEarth> And hopefully they would then be fixed
21:04 < CubicEarth> But anyway, the more fuzzing the code is subjected to without finding a flaw, the more secure you could assume it to be
21:06 < CubicEarth> That's my understanding at least... I'm not expert on it. Hopefully a real wizard will say if I'm wrong :)
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