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08:27 < Chris_Stewart_5> Hi all, i think this is some good motivation for APO: https://suredbits.com/hashrate-derivatives-with-dlcs-coinbase-put-contracts/
08:28 < Chris_Stewart_5> Since coinbase txs are non determinstic (witness commitment, scriptSig nonce), you can't construct a chain of txs from it unless you have APO or reduce your entropy set I believe
08:30 < Chris_Stewart_5> I _think_ this can be extended to creating a "resting order on the orderbook" with DLCs, but i'm still thinking through that scenario
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10:00 < harding> Chris_Stewart_5: I don't think the coinbase field nonce (what you call scriptSig nonce) is needed for miners using BIP320.  I don't have a great feeling for how much money miners would be leaving on the table if they only updated their tx set (and thus the witness commitment) only once a minute or so.
10:03 < harding> Chris_Stewart_5: are you aware of jeremyrubin's https://powswap.com/ ?
10:08 < Chris_Stewart_5> No i hadn't heard of that before, i'll check it out. Is it common practice for miners to update their witness commitment on a much smaller scale than every minute?
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10:41 < harding> Chris_Stewart_5: I've no idea how often miners update their witness commitment.  You can probably sign up for various pool's stratum servers and see how often they update the header merkle root to get an idea.
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