--- Log opened Mon Oct 25 00:00:13 2021 00:46 -!- Guyver2 [Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:56 -!- jess [~jess@libera/staff/jess] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:03 -!- jess [~jess@libera/staff/jess] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:20 -!- harrow [~harrow@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27 -!- harrow [~harrow@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:05 < yanmaani> no, I mean to use standard SHA-256 or so but use AES-256 for hashing. 02:05 < yanmaani> like, for the hashing of the header 02:10 < yanmaani> because CPUs already have AES-256 ASICs inside of them 03:01 -!- ghost43_ [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:02 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:27 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:00 -!- tralfaz [~davterra@143.198.56.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:15 < ademan[m]> I'm playing with http://bitcoin.sipa.be/miniscript/ a bit, and I'm admittedly out of my depth here, but `or_b(pk(A),s:pk(B))` is noted as non-malleable, and has a unique dissatisfaction, whereas `or_b(pk(A),pk(B))` is non-non-malleable, and has unknown dissatisfaction uniqueness. the `s:` prefix simply does a swap right? given `or_b()` considers both of the top stack items anyways, what is the material difference that `s:` adds? Is 09:15 < ademan[m]> it just helping the static analysis or is there a real difference? 09:19 -!- jamesob [uid180710@id-180710.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:41 < _aj_> ademan[m]: without the s: it won't work -- "B CHECKSIG" will take the result of "A CHECKSIG" as the signature it's checking? 09:50 < ademan[m]> _aj_: thanks that makes sense, I guess I thought/hoped I didn't have to worry what was actually happening on the stack 09:51 < _aj_> ademan[m]: the policy level lets you avoid that 09:52 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:53 < _aj_> or(1@pk(A), 1@pk(B)) vs or(100@pk(A), 1@pk(B)) -- first gives you the script with SWAP/s: second converts the less likely path to use pubkeyhash to save space, but the compiler figurs out all the details 10:04 -!- davterra [~davterra@143.198.56.186] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:30 < ademan[m]> thanks, yeah I think I'm also getting a bit confused between miniscript and policy. My original non-contrived "script" contained `multi()` but I guess that doesn't exist in policy specifications? It was ok with `or(thresh(2,pk(A),pk(B)), and(pk(A),after(42)))` 10:33 < ademan[m]> does the dissatisfiability attribute matter for a "top-level"/complete miniscript? `andor(pk(A),after(42),and_v(v:pk(A),pk(B)))` `14 scriptlen=111 maxops=7 type=B safe=yes nonmal=yes dissat=no input=- output=nonzero timelock_mix=no miniscript=andor(pk(A),after(42),and_v(v:pk(A),pk(B)))` 11:33 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:56 -!- t-bast [~t-bast@user/t-bast] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:15 -!- gene is now known as mzpetty 12:15 -!- mzpetty is now known as gene 12:20 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 12:25 -!- rbies [~rbies@ool-457cb55e.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-43-117-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-43-117-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:14 -!- t-bast [~t-bast@user/t-bast] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:49 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:57 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:18 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:18 -!- gene [~gene@gateway/tor-sasl/gene] has quit [Quit: gene] 14:45 -!- jesseposner [~jesse@c-24-5-105-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:03 -!- Aaronv___ [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:05 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@71pc74.sshunet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:10 -!- CrashTestDummy [~CrashTest@ool-ad02813b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:13 -!- CrashTestDummy3 [~CrashTest@ool-ad02813b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:23 -!- Guyver2 [Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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