--- Log opened Tue Jan 07 00:00:41 2025 00:27 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@syn-066-065-169-019.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:27 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@syn-066-065-169-019.res.spectrum.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:37 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@2a02:aa13:8342:1400:81b3:9662:6650:690d] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:57 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:15 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 02:52 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:04 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:04 -!- S3RK_ [~S3RK@user/s3rk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:04 -!- greypw14950 [~greypw@user/greypw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:07 -!- S3RK [~S3RK@user/s3rk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:08 -!- greypw14950 [~greypw@user/greypw] has quit [Client Quit] 04:09 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:35 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:36 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:16 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:36 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@2a03:d000:2a:21c:c8fd:aa48:e0e2:18b9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54 < instagibbs> we just need more states 06:02 < _aj_> instagibbs: go invade canadia then 06:05 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@2a03:d000:2a:21c:c8fd:aa48:e0e2:18b9] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:09 -!- greypw14956 [~greypw@user/greypw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:11 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:11 -!- greypw14956 is now known as greypw1495 06:25 -!- greypw1495 [~greypw@user/greypw] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 06:25 -!- greypw14950 [~greypw@user/greypw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:43 < Ademan> I already have too many states... and I'm waaaaaayyyyyy short of Antoine's 1000 party coinpool figure already (Although I can't imagine LN functioning when multi-party-channel partners need to swap 1000 signatures/2000 nonce+partial signatures) 06:45 < Ademan> I need to read that hierarchical channel paper that may be an alltogether saner approach. Heck maybe there's some synergy there, the multi-party construct only needs to update when somebody wants to rebalance their channel inside it? 06:47 < _aj_> https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2023/09/27/#using-covenants-to-improve-ln-scalability perhaps 06:59 -!- mcey_ [~emcy@85.255.235.206] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:02 -!- mcey [~emcy@148.252.144.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:02 -!- Cory [~Cory@user/pasha] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:02 -!- Cory [~Cory@user/pasha] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:05 < instagibbs> timeout trees are a way to embed many channels as leaves in a tree, but ofc the leaves themselves can be any channel type, and inner nodes could also becomes multi-party channels themselves (see zman's superscalar efforts 07:05 < instagibbs> https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/superscalar-laddered-timeout-tree-structured-decker-wattenhofer-factories-with-pseudo-spilman-leaves/1242 ) 07:40 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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