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00:33 < _aj_> Ademan: you'll allow miners to steal your utxos that way by replacing your spend with one that follows the IF path and giving dummy but non-empty signatures. the data encoding is also less efficient than inscriptions afaics?
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01:03 < Ademan> _aj_: there's a 32b key before the else to prevent that
01:06 < Ademan> RE efficiency, I think marginally less, yeah. I'm just trying to brainstorm data carriers that are maximally difficult to differentiate from legitimate transactions
01:07 < Ademan> "legitimate"
01:09 < Ademan> oh, the 32b key probably should be a CHECKSIG instead, and not checked with the <N> GE
01:11 < Ademan> eh, as long as <N> requires a signature for the 32 byte key it's fine, the cough syrup and lack of sleep is getting to me I think
01:13 < Ademan> obviously just using a bunch of 32 byte keys also accomplishes the goal, but it's FAR less efficient
01:21 < _aj_> Ademan: if you're doing n-of-n, then you don't need checksigadd anywhere; if the one key is mandatory, then yeah, you need to write the script differently
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01:31 < _aj_> Ademan: something that's already non-standard is easy to differentiate from regular use. 1-of-n or 2-of-n multisig is probably the easiest way, but even then you can say "n > 20 is stupid, banned". knots already has a patch to forbid taproot scripts that are more than 1650 bytes. https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/commit/57fadfa0360d079bfefd401d0a2873f336fe6674 and 
01:31 < _aj_> https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/commit/abdea9f7add33659339d68cd42ceba4994fd5314
01:36 < Ademan> I wonder if he's added a maximum tap tree depth, I just PoC'd stuffing data in the control block
01:48 < _aj_> Ademan: do you really think this is the best use of your time or intellect?
02:10 < Ademan> not at all, to the extent there's anything besides time to be wasted, it was more of a curiosity. I'm probably partially driven by some annoyance about the recent events, but to be clear I don't *like* people wasting block space nor driving up fees for monetary users. But if my dumb ass screwing around for an afternoon+evening is enough to be a problem, that feels worth knowing too. (I actually 
02:10 < Ademan> suspect stuffing data in the control block isn't novel, I swear someone mentioned it way back at the start of inscriptions)
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