--- Log opened Wed Jul 23 00:00:49 2025 00:01 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:39 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:40 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:45 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:18 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:23 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:27 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:34 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 -!- EmmyNoether [~EmmyNoeth@193.29.58.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:36 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:51 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:16 -!- tromp [~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:ac53:23aa:fa03:a9df] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:17 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:36 -!- EmmyNoether [~EmmyNoeth@193.29.58.204] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:44 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:52 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has quit [Quit: f321x] 03:05 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:16 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:31 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:33 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:42 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:46 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:01 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:25 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:29 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:12 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:15 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards [Closing Window] 05:22 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:26 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:28 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5285:8318:11c9:d63c:f804:d613] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:44 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:04 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:08 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:18 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:29 < darosior> 120 to go https://simplicity-lang.org/ 06:34 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:46 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:50 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:52 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:04 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:08 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:09 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:15 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:24 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:41 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:55 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:16 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:20 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:26 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38 -!- jerryf_ [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:38 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:44 < andytoshi> ..and it's locked in 08:44 < andytoshi> lol, our website has some javascript glitch 08:45 < andytoshi> anyway. "locked in" means that in 10080 blocks (July 30 or 31, depending on timezone, I believe) it'll be active on Liquid 08:47 < _aj_> congrats! 08:56 < andytoshi> thanks! 08:57 < andytoshi> (and sorry for the lack of comms -- i notice your tweets about this :P we are scrambling to put together blog posts and explanations and such) 08:57 < _aj_> andytoshi: huh, and i thought you had abandoned twitter 08:58 < andytoshi> i have never been on twitter. but people send me links to tweets about simplicity 08:59 < andytoshi> and somehow your "isn't it weird that there's been radio silence about this?" type tweets somehow stick into me way worse than any amount of normal twitter trolling :P 08:59 < _aj_> everything about liquid functionaries is radio silence :) 09:00 < andytoshi> yeah. don't ever try to operate a massive consortium. it's sooo much overhead to do anything. 09:00 < andytoshi> i mean, it's not "radio silence" internally. but it's not easy to get firm dates or roadmaps or anything that would make sense to share 09:01 < _aj_> well, i figure it's more that it's not clear where the line between private and public should be, so everything ends up private by default 09:01 < andytoshi> yeah, to a first approximation that's correct 09:01 < _aj_> for functionaries; add in just lack of time for trading off engineering vs blogging 09:02 < andytoshi> but with stuff liek the liquid source, we have a reasonably clear idea of what should be public, but it's still technically a lot of work to do so because we'd have to filter the git history 09:02 < andytoshi> _aj_: yes, and that is a huge part of it. it's hard enough keeping up with Core (which we aren't, really, though we're gteting better..) 09:03 -!- f321x [~f321x@user/f321x] has quit [Quit: f321x] 09:03 < andytoshi> s/liquid source/functionary source code/ 09:03 < _aj_> how are you going keeping up with the old security disclosures even? i had a quick look at that, and didn't notice any disasters at least 09:04 < andytoshi> the functionaries themselves connect to isolated nodes which only connect to "bridge nodes", and the bridge nodes we update far more agressively than the internal ones 09:04 < andytoshi> and we backport lots of stuff 09:05 < andytoshi> afaik we don't get any advance notice of security issues, but we do get post-hoc notice "hey you had better backport this" 09:05 < darosior> Congrats andytoshi, Sanket and Russell! 10:39 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:45 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:56 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:57 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:04 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:32 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:10 -!- jerryf_ [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:47 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:1600:11d:2c00:7434:2171:408a:b89c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:04 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:24 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5285:8318:e47c:3b71:ece0:ee4] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:31 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 16:32 -!- narodnik [~narodnik@bba-2-50-79-10.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:00 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:19 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:35 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:40 -!- Tjopper [~Thunderbi@user/Tjopper] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:30 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:47 -!- jungly [~jungly@user/jungly] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Jul 24 00:00:50 2025