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I ought to be able to CPFP as long as the parent is over the dynamic minimum, right? so maybe I'd sign a 11:35 < Ademan> handful of different versions of the parent tx to get it over the dynamic minimum, and then CPFP it from there? 11:37 < Ademan> one day will cluster mempool + package relay let me only sign a single zero-fee parent (the giant TX) and CPFP it? 11:37 < Ademan> Actually, I'm being stupid, I don't need ephemeral anchors, but I think my reasoning why I can't use TRUC still applies to a "normal" CPFP right? 11:57 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:58 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:58 < darosior> Ademan: yes, 1p1c still needs parent to be v3 12:03 < darosior> 1p1c with zero fee parent that is 12:03 < darosior> Or more broadly, below min relay feerate 12:05 < darosior> Relevant doc is https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/policy/packages.md#package-fees-and-feerate 12:05 < darosior> "Note: Package feerate cannot be used to meet the minimum relay feerate (-minrelaytxfee) requirement. For example, if the mempool minimum feerate is 5sat/vB and the minimum relay feerate is set to 5sat/vB, a 1sat/vB parent transaction with a high-feerate child will not be accepted, even if submitted as a package. Note that this rule does not apply 12:05 < darosior> to TRUC transactions as an individual TRUC transaction is permitted to be below the mempool min relay feerate, assuming it is considered within a package that meets the mempool's feerate requirements." 12:13 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:16 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:36 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:38 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:10 < Ademan> thanks! 13:13 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:15 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:24 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:25 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:52 -!- jon_atack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:53 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:11 -!- tromp [~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:5d4:dfa6:7d7:2af3] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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