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cryptokeeper | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2lexl2/here_is_why_the_hash_rate_jumped_and_took_a_dive/ | 06:59 |
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sipa | #bitcoin please :) | 07:00 |
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tacotime | is there any real consequence of truncating hashing a secp256k1 pubkey with sha256 and truncating it to 160 bytes as opposed to hashing with RIPEMD160? | 08:04 |
tacotime | s/truncating hashing/hashing | 08:04 |
zooko | Not as far as anyone has published. | 08:05 |
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zooko | But you mean 160 bits, I guess. | 08:09 |
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tacotime | correct, heh | 08:12 |
zooko | (But I recommend BLAKE2. ;-)) | 08:14 |
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tacotime | speaking of which, are there any papers detailing theoretical attacks on blake2b? | 08:18 |
tacotime | oh, just found one. https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/467.pdf | 08:19 |
zooko | Yeah, that's the only one: t | 08:21 |
zooko | https://blake2.net/#cr | 08:21 |
zooko | Although there's an argument that hopefully any weakness in BLAKE2 would have shown up when people studied BLAKE, ChaCha, and Salsa20 | 08:21 |
zooko | . | 08:21 |
zooko | Here's my pitch for why BLAKE2 is awesome: https://blake2.net/acns/slides.html | 08:22 |
tacotime | i had wanted to swap it into my fork for a while to replace sha256 because the performance on cpu was so nice looking. | 08:23 |
zooko | *nod* | 08:23 |
tacotime | well, i think litecoin shows salsa20/8 works, and if salsa works i'm sure chacha does too. | 08:24 |
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sipa | i don't think scrypt has particularly strong demands from its underlying stream cipher | 08:24 |
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sipa | (as in, salsa could be pretty broken for many purposes, but still be perfect for use in scrypt) | 08:25 |
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gmaxwell | ryan-c: my logs say its been mentioned a couple times in #bitcoin-dev | 18:10 |
ryan-c | gmaxwell: not surprised, i should grep my logs | 18:11 |
ryan-c | (2^256-1)%N also has some action on it | 18:11 |
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OP_NULL | ryan-c: there's more interesting things to sight see in the blockchain if that's your thing. can you come up with a reason for a few tens of outputs spent to a script "OP_IFDUP OP_IF OP_2SWAP OP_VERIFY OP_2OVER OP_DEPTH"? | 18:26 |
ryan-c | wtf is OP_DEPTH? | 18:27 |
gmaxwell | OP_NULL: I know the reason for that, if you were asking instead of posing a puzzle. | 18:27 |
OP_NULL | gmaxwell: it's a puzzle, I know the answer. | 18:27 |
OP_NULL | ryan-c: pushes the number of items in the stack, to the stack. | 18:28 |
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ryan-c | OP_NULL: well, OP_IF without OP_ENDIF is invalid, most of the opcodes are in the ascii text range though.... | 18:33 |
tacotime | ryan-c: you're on the right track. | 18:33 |
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kefkius | Don't tell me! I'm trying to work through it | 18:33 |
tacotime | :) | 18:33 |
ryan-c | okay, well i can read it | 18:35 |
ryan-c | OP_NULL: I spend a disturbing amount of time looking at stuff that's hex encoded. | 18:36 |
manaka | do zero knowledge makes sense in order to prove the identities of peers in a dht? | 18:36 |
manaka | zkp | 18:36 |
tacotime | ryan-c: wanna know why it's there? | 18:37 |
OP_NULL | ryan-c: as you no doubt found out, it decodes to a literal ascii "script". it came from a typo in P2Pool. | 18:37 |
tacotime | yeah. heh. | 18:37 |
ryan-c | lol | 18:37 |
ryan-c | this is what testnet is for | 18:37 |
* kefkius pretends he was about to say that | 18:37 | |
ryan-c | kefkius: If it makes you feel better, I play in a lot of CTFs | 18:38 |
ryan-c | by this time i can often tell what sort of data something is just by looking at the hex or base64 encoded version | 18:38 |
tacotime | it's almost as fun as the time mtgox sent 2609 bitcoins to OP_DUP OP_HASH160 0 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG | 18:39 |
OP_NULL | there's more fun if you go looking. for example, there's 2700 BTC with an output script of OP_DUP OP_HASH160 0 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG. one can only assume one of Mt Gox's functions returned false. | 18:39 |
ryan-c | lol | 18:39 |
tacotime | jinx :) | 18:39 |
kefkius | OK I at least know what that p2pkh does | 18:39 |
ryan-c | I found one a little earlier that just wanted 3 3 on the stack | 18:39 |
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phantomcircuit | ryan-c, with pool stuff there is often no reason to use testnet | 22:19 |
phantomcircuit | if you happen to find a valid network block with your beta quality pool software | 22:20 |
phantomcircuit | maybe you get lucky and it's valid | 22:20 |
phantomcircuit | or you're using testnet and horray testnet coins | 22:20 |
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phantomcircuit | i actually found valid blocks with alpha quality software unexpectedly | 22:21 |
phantomcircuit | (two of them!) | 22:21 |
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