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| Luke-Jr | op_mul: I like the "email transaction" version better anyway. no id needed, no OP_RETURN needed. :p | 00:24 |
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| Luke-Jr | (that is, wrap a transaction+data in a payment protocol structure and send it via email; recipient has duty to announce to the network after telling his wallet about the key) | 00:26 |
| op_mul | Luke-Jr: somehow I don't think people will latch onto that. give it a swankier name and pitch it again. | 00:28 |
| Luke-Jr | op_mul: "send to person" :P | 00:29 |
| Luke-Jr | "address-free bitcoin" | 00:29 |
| op_mul | "AnarchySend" | 00:29 |
| op_mul | ship it. | 00:30 |
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| Luke-Jr | "real bitcoin™" | 00:31 |
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| op_mul | Luke-Jr: I don't like that actually. at least with HTTP it's sort of easy to tell if the page you are visiting is "secure". with email it's anybodies guess. | 00:49 |
| Luke-Jr | op_mul: doesn't matter much unless you use the wrong base key with the email | 00:49 |
| Luke-Jr | it's still just a signed transaction that needs a private key to redeem ;) | 00:49 |
| op_mul | oh yep. I follow. I thought you meant moving BIP70 into an email form, but you meant just sending the ephemeral portion of the "stealth" address directly to the person rather than have them scan for it. | 00:51 |
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| op_mul | not super slick though. | 00:53 |
| op_mul | if you lose the ephemeral key you either have to use a non-SPV client and scan every transaction, or outsource it. I know what most people will do. | 00:54 |
| Luke-Jr | op_mul: or ask the sender to resend | 00:55 |
| Luke-Jr | not sure why you'd lose it though | 00:55 |
| Luke-Jr | but then, my email is stored in git <.< | 00:56 |
| op_mul | I was thinking if you lost/destroyed/whatever your wallet and recovered it with a BIP32 seed. | 00:56 |
| Luke-Jr | oh, hm | 00:57 |
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| op_mul | Luke-Jr: I suppose that's a niche issue. | 01:20 |
| Luke-Jr | op_mul: not sure. half the benefit of HD wallets is a single backup | 01:23 |
| Luke-Jr | I suppose the transaction could always have the OP_RETURN in it still, and only use the email so you get metadata with it | 01:23 |
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| tacotime | w/r/t stealth addresses, i'll see if i can implement it out of band this month in btcd/btcwallet | 11:20 |
| tacotime | i think that's a good way to do it for now; just export the data that's normally OP_RETURN'd with in JSON for the user to ship off to the receiver from some OOB mechanism | 11:21 |
| tacotime | then users can make QR codes to put on their business cards or whatever, with [OOB_contact_info]&[stealth_address] embedded into it | 11:22 |
| tacotime | then it's just a matter of forwarding the data and txhash | 11:23 |
| tacotime | --> actually usable non-reusable addresses :P | 11:23 |
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| tacotime | i maybe derive the scan privkey from the spend privkey by hashing too, since we do that for monero and it seems relatively safe so far. | 11:28 |
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| op_mul | tacotime: the reason I don't like that too much is that it means you can't recover a wallet just with a BIP32 seed. you need to go digging around for metadata you may or may not have retained. | 17:33 |
| op_mul | "you know that ephemeral key I emailed to your hotmail address like 5 years ago?" "er" | 17:33 |
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