2015-03-12.log

--- Log opened Thu Mar 12 00:00:19 2015
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fluffyponythis is neat: http://notanumber.net/archives/183/cuckoo-byte-stuffing-algorithm09:23
fluffyponylooks like it'd be much more efficient than COBS09:24
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trompCOBS?10:07
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fluffyponytromp_: consistent overhead byte stuffing10:15
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oaavisounds delicious10:18
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gmaxwellman, I'm sure I've seen before someone do an escape with PRNG replacement on hit that was pretty close to this but don't remember the name.10:18
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RastaRoyaleWhat do you think about the $120M "21" qualcomm deal?13:00
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RastaRoyaleIt seems like people have been trying to get mobile wallets to end consumers forever.13:02
Adlaiyou think a mobile wallet needs $120 stealth funding?13:03
RastaRoyaleI guess it's not so stealth if it's clear that qualcomm is involved?13:04
fluffyponyRastaRoyale: #bitcoin is that-a-way13:04
RastaRoyale ah thanks13:06
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fluffyponyhttp://blog.ircmaxell.com/2015/03/security-issue-combining-bcrypt-with.html?m=122:48
fluffyponybasically PHP and the crypt library's implementations of bcrypt and some other hashing functions terminate on a null byte22:50
fluffyponywhich is fine, until you pre-hash something and the output contains a string with null-bytes22:50
fluffypony"The underlying problem is that combining cryptographic operators that weren't designed to be combined can be disasterous. Is it possible to do so safely? Yes. Is it a good idea to do it? No. This particular case is just one example where combining operations can be exceedingly dangerous."22:50
fluffyponyI guess half of the altcoins didn't get that memo...22:51
gmaxwellman that page tool a lot of space to say the implementation wasn't binary clear.22:51
fluffyponygmaxwell: hence my tl;dr :-P22:52
gmaxwellfortunately most idiots will likely save themselves by feeding it the _hex_ of some other hash.22:52
gmaxwellbut indeed the point you're making from it is a good one.22:52
gmaxwellThough I wish most of the broken things I've seen were even that subtle.22:53
fluffyponyI wonder if it isn't an inability of most of the "devs" to understand decentralised / assume malice / blockchain principles and then design conceptually with those in mind22:54
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brisquefuffypony: ita a totally different mind state than lots of people are taught. you sprinkle on security afterwards rather than baking it in.23:18
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brisqueI've seen people several times post on bitcointalk with examples where they interfaced with bitcoind by passing input to a shell with bitcoin-cli, for example.23:20
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* fluffypony shudders23:21
brisquenot to pretend that json RPC itself hasn't had sanitation problems.23:23
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