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runeksWhen I look at the scriptSig and scriptPubKey of a transaction on blockchain.info, are the "push" opcodes omitted? "Push" opcodes being these: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script#Constants03:13
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sipasb end03:13
siparuneks: i think they are just pretty printed as the data being pushed03:14
sipabitcoin core does the same afaik03:14
sipathe normal pushes are not considered "opcodes", just data03:14
runekssipa: ok, I see. So the serialization of such a script would contain an opcode before the actual data, eg. the 0x01 through 0x4b opcodes, if no more than 0x4b bytes are pushed onto onto the stack?03:17
sipaindeed03:18
runekssipa: cool! Makes more sense now :)03:19
runeksThank you03:19
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lmatteisdoes anybody know of a general p2p mailing list that is fairley active?09:52
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kanzurep2p-hackers10:02
kanzurep2pfoundation10:03
kanzureask michel bauwens10:03
lmatteiskanzure: http://lists.zooko.com/pipermail/p2p-hackers/ - seems kinda dead10:05
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lmatteisand https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/2015-April/thread.html doesn't seem tech related10:07
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sipawell, p2p is a very wide concept10:08
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lmatteissipa: true10:09
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kanzurelmatteis: bug zooko about that10:14
kanzure.tell zooko your mailing list is dead according to lmatteis10:14
yoleauxkanzure: I'll pass your message to zooko.10:14
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lmatteis:)10:14
sipaalmost like asking "is there a general transistors mailing list?"10:15
sipayou're very unlikely to be interested in all their applications10:15
lmatteisor "is there a client-server mailing list?"10:15
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* lmatteis googles for "client-server mailing list" :D10:16
kanzurethere is a transistors mailing list, it's called piclist10:16
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kanzurefor client-server i would either bug or blame one of the ietf mailing lists10:16
kanzurepiclist or memstalk10:17
lmatteisthere's a p2p conference in the academics10:17
lmatteiswhich i think is getting traction; not sure how well is rated10:17
lmatteisso perhaps p2p is a "closer" community than one may think10:18
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fluffyponythis was an interesting read: http://blogs.technet.com/b/johnla/archive/2015/04/26/defenders-think-in-lists-attackers-think-in-graphs-as-long-as-this-is-true-attackers-win.aspx12:21
fluffypony.title12:21
yoleauxDefenders think in lists. Attackers think in graphs. As long as this is true, attackers win. - Defender Mindset - Site Home - TechNet Blogs12:21
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ejiggerPatented IdeaMap methodology study on digital currency12:36
ejiggerNeed your indispensable input on an important digital currency study12:36
ejiggerhttp://www.ideamap.net/R3D6B9/R3D6B911115Front.asp12:36
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bsm117532And here's an example of something I won't click on, because it looks like a phishing attack or malware.12:41
bsm117532Good luck with that survey...12:41
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ejiggerThank you bsm117532. Definitely not a phishing attack or malware. Thought useful for the community12:44
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kanzureAutomated Generation and Analysis of Attack Graphs by J. Haines, S. Jha, R. Lippman, O. Sheyner, J. Wing, https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~scenariograph/sheyner-wing02.pdf12:51
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zookoI'm going to attend "Inside Bitcoins" in NYC.20:58
yoleaux26 Apr 2015 17:14Z <kanzure> zooko: your mailing list is dead according to lmatteis20:58
zooko:-(20:58
zookop2p-hackers?20:58
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zookokanzure, lmatteis --^20:59
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kanzurezooko: i am in nyc, but can't attend until wednesday. find me and bring me food :-(.21:01
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zookoUm, are you hungry? I'm still in California.21:04
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zookoI never can understand gimp layers.21:36
moazooko: does anyone?21:38
zookoI'm reading the fine manual.21:39
zookoSoon I will be the first person to ever understand how to use gimp layers.21:39
moai think so21:39
moaat which point you can get a diploma in advanced graphical editing21:40
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