2015-05-14.log

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stevenroosei have a question03:03
stevenrooseI believe that the limit of keys in an m of n transaction was something like 15, right?03:04
stevenrooselet me check03:04
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stevenroose16 it is03:05
stevenrooseis there a way to let say 100 private keys control some funds?03:05
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fluffyponystevenroose: yes, split the funds up into 7 groups03:48
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stevenroosefluffypony, well, if I want 90 of 100 sig04:41
stevenrooseis that possible by splitting?04:41
antanststevenroose: you can use shamir's secret04:43
gmaxwellantanst: thats not a multisignature; you have to trust the device they're reassembled on completely; if you could do that.. why bother splitting? just leave your keys there.04:45
stonecoldpati was gonna say shamir's secret as well, but IIRC, once the 90 people agree to produce the key required to do the signature - then any one of them can spend the coins whatever way they want04:46
antanstgmaxwell: You've got a point04:46
gmaxwellstevenroose: assuming you're asking for a multisignature, a 90 of 100 is not really feasable today; but see my recent talk from the SF meetup where I talk a bit about a scheme that is basically ideal for 90 of 100.04:47
gmaxwellsipa: intel just started shipping chips with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_ADX04:49
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kanzurephantomcircuit: he should just start signing stuff as jgarzik instead05:02
kanzurestevenroose: the talk he is talking about is http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-bitcoin-selection-cryptography/05:03
stevenroosethanks, kanzure05:05
stevenroosewhat are the odds of this becoming possible in bitcoin in the future?05:05
kanzuremanykey thresholds? i'd say high. schnorr stuff seems to work.05:11
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stevenrooseespecially the polychecksig sounded promising06:38
stevenroosegmaxwell, any news on that?06:39
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zookoAre there any real prediction markets or derivatives markets in cryptocurrencies yet?08:23
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sl01zooko: maybe bitshares? not sure if that would count09:01
andytoshithere is truthcoin but that is a long way away from being "real"09:02
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stonecoldpatdoes anyone know of a statistic site like p2sh.info that shows the total number of bitcoins kept using pay to pubkey hash? p.s. whoever made the p2sh one did a good job, it looks really nice09:14
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sipastonecoldpat: sorry for not responding yet to your mail09:16
sipai'll be on vacation the next two weeks09:17
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stonecoldpatoh no worries i thought you had been09:17
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williamdunnestevenroose: For 90 of 100 sig you could have 15 servers doing 13 of 15 multisig and have 6-7 users per server. Build out signing mechanism that way.09:24
williamdunneReally hacky way and would require a fair amount of work, but just a thought09:24
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