2015-05-23.log

--- Log opened Sat May 23 00:00:19 2015
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wwwhey, one quick q. can a bitcoin tx contain multiple OP_RETURN outputs?09:06
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Luke-Jrwww: there is no such thing as "OP_RETURN outputs" at the protocol level; if you mean Core's reference spamfiltering, then no09:08
Luke-Jrwww: why do you think OP_RETURN is useful?09:09
wwwtrying to fit a signature of a msg into a bitcoin tx. signature seems to be 88 bytes09:09
Luke-Jrhash it09:10
wwwi hash the message09:10
Luke-Jrno, hash the signature09:11
wwwand then where to publish the sig?09:11
Luke-Jrwith the message09:11
wwwthe message is on chain09:11
Luke-Jrthen the recipient verifies the sig matches the message, and the H(sig) matches the commitment09:11
wwwand less than 80 bytes09:11
Luke-Jrwell, then you're just doing it wrong :P09:11
Luke-Jryou might also find https://github.com/Blockstream/contracthashtool useful09:11
wwwusing bitcore for message signing and verification09:12
wwwis bad?09:12
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Luke-Jrwww: using the blockchain for messaging is bad09:12
wwwah, no, it is useful09:12
Luke-Jrno, it isn't. it is clueless.09:12
wwwok mr overlord09:13
wwwi obey09:13
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wwwi will try to keep your blockchain clean and pretty09:14
Luke-Jryou asked how to do X, so I advised you how to do X. your hostility is not appropriate.09:19
wwwi don't feel advised, i feel commanded09:20
wwwmaybe there is a way to make the sig shorter..?09:21
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wwwWTF Early on, the miner Eligius started putting Catholic prayers in English and Latin in the coinbase field of blocks they mined. Here are some samples: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photographs.html09:29
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fluffyponywww: take it somewhere else, thanks.09:30
wwwis this the same Luke-Jr here who put CATHOLIC prayers into bitcoins chain?09:30
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Luke-Jrfluffypony: I'm biased. Ought he be +q'd?09:33
fluffyponyif he shuts up or leaves of his own accord then no, but if he carries on blathering then yes09:34
fluffyponynow let's make that a smart contract and put it on the blockchain09:34
fluffypony:-P09:34
Luke-Jr:p09:34
wwwhave fun guys09:35
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akrmnI wonder if Bitcoin core devs restrict what they say publicly to avoid being targeted by a hitman hired by a powerful entity, or something like that16:44
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nsh(you can wonder about that in #bitcoin)16:48
akrmnnsh: I thought it was on topic, because of the large proportion of Bitcoin devs here, but ok...16:49
akrmnalso, no mods here :)16:50
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akrmno ok16:51
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@nshon-topic is vaguely defined, but if you wanted to enquire of the devs, perhaps the via the mailing-list. on-topicness seems to have a preference for conceptual/theoretical/technical aspects of blockchain and related technologies, over more social or hypothetical topics. but it's elastic, hence i made the suggestion parenthetical :)16:58
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nsh*perhaps via16:58
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dgenr8just spent hours pondering selfish mining paper monte carlo simulation before finally seeing intuitively where 33% comes from.  2*alpha = 1*(1-alpha). no one tells me these things17:15
nshin better-earth, then you see an assertion in a paper, it's semantically linked to various levels of explanitory elaboration that you can intuitively unfold, or are even unfolded in accordance with your own personal comprehension repository system17:19
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