2015-06-28.log

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andytoshigmaxwell: (a) no, and (b) i think this is pretty hard actually, adam and i ran repeatedly into a related problem (proving a sum of keys was actually computed using the keys, without eg adding r to one and -r to another) when we were trying to make constant-size ringsigs. i don't remember the details but it was related to permutations (since the real key had to occupy a specific "slot" or something07:31
andytoshilike that which ofc should not be revealed) and we got nowhere07:31
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andytoshii'll think about how to do it in say linear time wrt the size of the permutation tho..07:31
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andytoshibut what was killing us was not so much our efficiency requirements, it was that you can't do much of anything to aggregate keys except adding them together, and that loses a ton of information07:33
kanzurewould there be any value in limiting the number of transactions in each block? rather than block size.07:35
kanzureor, in addition to block size.07:35
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andytoshikanzure: it'd encourage coinjoining07:35
kanzureawful!07:35
andytoshilol07:36
maakukanzure: value? yes it'd make the merkle trees smaller07:46
maakubut while it encourages coinjoining, it works against OWAS or some p2p market ideas07:47
nshtends towards signer/coalition centralization07:50
nshdoubleplusungood07:50
nsh[even if there exist privacy-enhancing coalitions, you can bet dollars to donuts they will be sparse among the types of coalition that emerge when you incentizive them]07:51
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kanzureis there a good reason we don't have a good aggregatable signature scheme yet07:57
kanzurelike a million-to-one aggregation?07:57
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kanzure"Secure proxy signature schemes for delegation of signing rights" https://eprint.iacr.org/2003/096.pdf08:03
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nshkanzure, scaling behaviour is probably a factor08:07
maakukanzure: what do you mean by "we have"? there's good proposals08:08
kanzurecoinjoin is not sufficient08:08
maakuthough the one I like involves the pairing assumption08:08
kanzurenot sure which other proposals you are talking about08:09
maakukanzure: do you know OWAS? one-way aggregate signatures08:09
maakuhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290971.008:09
kanzurei'm aware of the concept, but not of any specific bitcoin proposals08:09
maakuwell it'd be a hard-fork change, so it hasn't got much attention08:10
kanzurethis seems to be focused on anonymity08:10
maaku(but it's something you could do in a sidechain!)08:10
kanzurei'd be fine with an aggregate signature scheme that has no anonymity08:10
maakukanzure: for what purpose then?08:10
kanzureabridging intermediate transaction history08:10
kanzureinstead of dumping all transactions into a blockchain08:11
maakukanzure: oh, well lightning08:11
maakuand micropayment hubs08:11
kanzurelightning is only a bi-directional channel08:11
kanzurei want to send 100k payments and have each of my 100k different receivers also send 10k payments, and none of the intermediate transactions should need to be on the blockchain itself08:11
kanzureand also, it would be nice if there could be arbitrarily-deep transaction chains that bridge the history of an even larger transaction chain08:11
maakukanzure: lightning is much more than a bidirectional channel, which is why it needs so many changes08:12
maakui'm not sure why you think you can't do that with micropayment channels08:12
* nsh listens attentively08:13
kanzureas you increase the number of people on each side of the channel, you increase the probability that one of them will want to throw the transaction into the blockchain to close the channel08:13
maakuso? it only affects their channel08:13
maakuit doesn't require anything else to hit the chain08:13
kanzurewell, the other users have to reopen channels08:13
kanzureso....08:13
maakuno, channels are direct08:13
maakuif you close your channel with hub A, I don't have to close my channel with hub A08:14
maakunow you move an insane amount of money around in one direction at once, it is true you will saturate one direction of a channel08:14
kanzureclosing a channel means putting a transaction on the blockchain....08:14
kanzuresigh08:14
maaku"well, the other users have to reopen channels" <-- this is incorrect08:15
kanzurei was talking about a single channel08:15
kanzureit's correct.08:15
maakuif you have 100k people receiving payments, and 15 of them decide to close their channel, 15 transactions hit the chain08:16
maakui'm sorry, I'm just not seing the issue. maybe I'm dense08:16
* nsh doubts there's a way to nontrivially improve on that08:17
nshsorry, doubts there's a trivial way to improve on that08:18
kanzureso, that's unrelated to a single channel, i think08:23
maakunsh: me being dense? probably. nootropics?08:24
kanzurethe idea was to abridge transaction history, not "hope that they all collectively decide to close their channels after transacting in a way that happens to reduce the total number of transactions"08:24
* nsh is definitely the denser :)08:24
nshkanzure, abridging without cooperation is... i don't want to say impossible08:25
maakusnarks08:25
nshyeah, moonmathematical08:25
maakuotherwise... nothing i know08:25
kanzurei'd be okay with cooperation.08:25
nshthat's a nice compromise between possible and impossible :)08:25
nshwell, not closing your channel is cooperation08:25
maakukanzure: well, an active fee market is also important08:25
kanzureno, snarks cooperation would probably involve stuff like "here, sign my fart"08:25
kanzureinstead of just "plz don't close your channel"08:26
maakukanzure: where I'm being dense is I don't understand the concern. closing a channel is not an externalized cost, due to fees08:26
maakuif you want to close your channel, fine. pay up08:27
maakuwell, modulo all of bitcoin being an externalized cost to non-mining full nodes, etc. etc.08:27
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kanzureso you believe that large quantities of transactions- perhaps billions- will have users that choose to use software that tries to find ways to close the channels in a way that minimizes the number of fees and number of transactions that get into the blockchain?08:28
nshno, i imagine the people paying the users will be strongly incentivized to minimise the overhead for the recipients08:29
nshand that will tend towards streamlining08:29
maakukanzure: when transaction fees are $100/tx, yes08:29
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andytoshikanzure: OWAS is slow and depends on pairing. it hasn't been implemented 'til now because it'd be a controversial hardfork for bitcoin plus it'd have bad scaling consequences (why there has been no "pairing-crypto alt" idk, nobody here has done it because there are better uses of our time)09:03
andytoshibut given gmax's comments above about how OWAS interacts with CT, and adam's periodic musings on a "BDH-secure sidechain" (meaning one where pairing crypto's security assumptions are considered sufficient), i'm sure something will crop up in this area sooner or later..09:04
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nshwell, i think once alpha proves the sidechains concept is feasible [assuming it does], then there might be a cambrian explosion09:06
nshto put it in provocative hyperbolic terms, after my idiom09:06
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maakuthe only reason OWAS wasn't in alpha was because CT was easier to get out the door first09:15
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maakumaybe-interesting observation : with onion routing of lightning payments you can have "hidden" payment addresses10:14
Luke-Jrcan't you already? just payment protocol over tor10:20
nshCT can easily allow for hidden payment addresses by using address-ratcheting [OTR-style] through the side-channel. doesn't deal with the first address issue though10:22
nsh(likewise OTR doesn't deal with identity/presence management)10:22
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TiraspolAnyone here who can help me with some java questions?12:13
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fluffyponyTiraspol: ##java12:27
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