| --- Log opened Thu Jul 23 00:00:19 2015 | ||
| -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EAF05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:10 | |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:18 | |
| -!- FranzKafka [~FranzKafk@unaffiliated/franzkafka] has quit [] | 00:34 | |
| -!- p15x_ [~p15x@64.145.91.77] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:37 | |
| -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] | 00:37 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 00:38 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.19.129] has quit [Excess Flood] | 00:46 | |
| -!- Guest60235 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 00:46 | |
| -!- cixx [~Rob@ip4da81ded.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:48 | |
| -!- Mably [56401ec5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.64.30.197] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:51 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.19.129] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:52 | |
| -!- moa [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/moa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 00:59 | |
| -!- _biO_ [~biO_@80.156.183.43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:05 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:07 | |
| -!- b_lumenkraft [~b_lumenkr@unaffiliated/b-lumenkraft/x-4457406] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:13 | |
| -!- gsdgdfs [~Trans@modemcable148.3-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:20 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:22 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 01:23 | |
| -!- Transisto2 [~Trans@modemcable148.3-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 01:23 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:36 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [Client Quit] | 01:39 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:41 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [Client Quit] | 01:42 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 01:43 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:44 | |
| -!- Firescar96 [~nchinda2@pool-96-232-109-207.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: The flame grows dim, I must rekindle] | 01:46 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:49 | |
| -!- yosss [77517c54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.119.81.124.84] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 01:58 | |
| yosss | . | 01:59 |
|---|---|---|
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 02:00 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:01 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:04 | |
| -!- sparetire_ [~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire] has quit [Quit: sparetire_] | 02:07 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 02:08 | |
| -!- destiny0 [~destiny@destiny.port0.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:10 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [] | 02:17 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:21 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:29 | |
| -!- Anduck [~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 02:29 | |
| waxwing | i guess people here already know about this? http://enigma.media.mit.edu/enigma_full.pdf | 02:33 |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 02:35 | |
| -!- Anduck [~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:36 | |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc3-swan1-0-0-cust996.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:38 | |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc3-swan1-0-0-cust996.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] | 02:38 | |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:38 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.116] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:42 | |
| -!- p15x_ [~p15x@64.145.91.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 02:44 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@ip1f10af17.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:48 | |
| -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:51 | |
| -!- Aquentin [~Aquentin@unaffiliated/aquentin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 02:52 | |
| -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 03:04 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:05 | |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 03:06 | |
| -!- yosss [77517c54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.119.81.124.84] has quit [Quit: Page closed] | 03:18 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher1 [~jannes@ip54544d54.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:28 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher2 [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:31 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 03:31 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher1 [~jannes@ip54544d54.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 03:33 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@ip1f10af17.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 03:33 | |
| -!- jtimon [~quassel@200.Red-79-148-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:34 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@2a02:8108:73f:f6e4:e23f:49ff:fe47:9364] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:34 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@2a02:8108:73f:f6e4:e23f:49ff:fe47:9364] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 03:34 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@2a02:8108:73f:f6e4:e23f:49ff:fe47:9364] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:35 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 03:35 | |
| -!- rrrandom [~user@5ec3233a.skybroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:37 | |
| -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 03:38 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-109-65-81-187.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:39 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@114.243.158.230] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:45 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 03:54 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:55 | |
| moa | waxwing: interesting enigma ... taking on some hefty issues squarely | 03:55 |
| waxwing | let's hope nobody finds any cribs ;) | 03:57 |
| moa | scalability and privacy | 03:57 |
| -!- Guest60235 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 03:58 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 04:03 | |
| -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EAF05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 04:06 | |
| moa | the blockchain becomes a verifiable index for computational data stored in the dht | 04:07 |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Quitte] | 04:21 | |
| AaronvanW | waxwing: which blockchain will enigma use? | 04:27 |
| waxwing | AaronvanW: i didn't read it all, i got the impression bitcoin though | 04:28 |
| AaronvanW | waxwing: I think not | 04:28 |
| waxwing | http://www.wired.com/2015/06/mits-bitcoin-inspired-enigma-lets-computers-mine-encrypted-data/ | 04:31 |
| waxwing | ^ quote in the article suggests they do | 04:31 |
| waxwing | "Every time someone requests a computation from the Enigma network, he or she pays a bitcoin fee. A tiny part of that money is paid to a computer in the bitcoin network to record Enigma’s metadata in the blockchain" | 04:31 |
| -!- prodatalab [~prodatala@nj-71-0-106-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 04:31 | |
| waxwing | i mean, it doesn't actually exist of course | 04:32 |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@2a02:8108:73f:f6e4:e23f:49ff:fe47:9364] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 04:32 | |
| AaronvanW | waxwing: looks like you might be right. it's confusing because in one article it says it uses technology "inspired by Bitcoin", and in the next it seems to actually use Bitcoin | 04:34 |
| waxwing | it's hard nowadays since blockchain became the word-du-jour .. the journalists tend to just stop there. | 04:35 |
| waxwing | i agree the paper seems to be a bit agnostic | 04:35 |
| AaronvanW | waxwing: well, I am a journalist and I'm actually trying to find out which one it is ;) | 04:36 |
| waxwing | AaronvanW: hah! | 04:37 |
| -!- cryptowest [~cryptowes@2604:a880:800:10::81f:3001] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 04:37 | |
| AaronvanW | but yeah, it does seem a bit agnostic, I guess that's a pretty good way to put it | 04:38 |
| AaronvanW | might use that :p | 04:38 |
| waxwing | AaronvanW: well in these kind of applications they tend to "fall back" to Bitcoin, although knowing they don't necessarily need to use it, because the stability/security from the hashpower makes it the obvious choice. That's my read. | 04:39 |
| waxwing | this is mainly about MPC though, and what always seemed to kill that off was the enormous interactivity. | 04:41 |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 05:00 | |
| -!- Muis [sid26074@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-stirmihwsgniourz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 05:05 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-109-65-81-187.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 05:09 | |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:12 | |
| -!- p15x_ [~p15x@61.149.241.58] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:17 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:18 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@114.243.158.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 05:19 | |
| -!- PRab [~chatzilla@2601:40a:8000:8f9b:9120:1d7e:ce9a:d596] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 05:19 | |
| -!- digitalmagus [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:20 | |
| -!- digitalmagus8 [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 05:22 | |
| -!- moa [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/moa] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 05:26 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-78-176.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:26 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-109-65-81-187.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:28 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@123.118.94.129] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:28 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:28 | |
| -!- p15x_ [~p15x@61.149.241.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 05:29 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/erasmospunk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:34 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:44 | |
| -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@76-255-129-88.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 05:49 | |
| -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:50 | |
| -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 05:55 | |
| -!- digitalmagus8 [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 05:56 | |
| -!- digitalmagus [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 05:57 | |
| -!- vonzipper [sid77971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtuemqhbewwrmiec] has quit [] | 06:00 | |
| -!- vonzipper [sid77971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prtltopnrafvbwfp] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:00 | |
| -!- yosss_ [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:10 | |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:10 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 06:11 | |
| -!- yosss_ is now known as yosss | 06:11 | |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 06:11 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@ip1f10af17.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:14 | |
| -!- antgreen` [~user@142.169.78.94] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:15 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@123.118.94.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 06:16 | |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@172.56.17.42] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:26 | |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@172.56.17.42] has quit [Client Quit] | 06:28 | |
| -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n | 06:31 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] | 06:33 | |
| -!- Quashie__ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:36 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:36 | |
| -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 06:39 | |
| -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:42 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:44 | |
| -!- yosss_ [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:47 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 06:49 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/erasmospunk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 06:49 | |
| -!- yosss_ is now known as yosss | 06:49 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@179.43.177.194] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 06:51 | |
| -!- Artimage [d88b8b32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.139.139.50] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:03 | |
| -!- Quanttek [~quassel@ip1f10af17.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 07:04 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@119.81.124.85-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 07:07 | |
| -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:21 | |
| -!- antgreen` [~user@142.169.78.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 07:23 | |
| -!- Meeh [~meeeeeeh@meeh.sigterm.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 07:28 | |
| -!- Meeh [~meeeeeeh@meeh.sigterm.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:28 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 07:31 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:33 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 07:35 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@66.201.52.99] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:36 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@66.201.52.99] has quit [Changing host] | 07:36 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:36 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 07:41 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@66.201.52.99] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:42 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@66.201.52.99] has quit [Changing host] | 07:42 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:42 | |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 07:48 | |
| -!- Guest60235 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 07:51 | |
| -!- SDCDev [~quassel@unaffiliated/sdcdev] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] | 08:03 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] | 08:07 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@148.sub-70-214-13.myvzw.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:08 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@148.sub-70-214-13.myvzw.com] has quit [Changing host] | 08:08 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:08 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 08:10 | |
| -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@38.121.165.30] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:13 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:17 | |
| -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 08:19 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:20 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:20 | |
| -!- Guest60235 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:25 | |
| -!- Guest60235 is now known as psztorc | 08:25 | |
| -!- GoonClooney [sid44280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpjpvrkjswgbeqik] has quit [] | 08:32 | |
| -!- GoonClooney [sid44280@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjikdhlrjdjngujy] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:32 | |
| -!- Artimage [d88b8b32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.139.139.50] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] | 08:33 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3A97A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:34 | |
| -!- mappum [sid43795@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmxsqxmkhxmratof] has quit [] | 08:35 | |
| -!- mappum [sid43795@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qaidambofomusbcm] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:35 | |
| -!- cixx [~Rob@ip4da81ded.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 08:37 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-109-65-81-187.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 08:40 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 08:42 | |
| -!- Artimage [d88b8b32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.139.139.50] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:45 | |
| -!- Mably [56401ec5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.64.30.197] has quit [Quit: Page closed] | 08:45 | |
| -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:9838:2fb:683a:909] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:48 | |
| -!- NewLiberty__ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:9838:2fb:683a:909] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:48 | |
| -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:9838:2fb:683a:909] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 08:48 | |
| -!- NewLiberty__ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:9838:2fb:683a:909] has quit [K-Lined] | 08:49 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Read error: No route to host] | 08:51 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:57 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] | 08:58 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 08:59 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 09:01 | |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:01 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:13 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I rage quit!] | 09:20 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 09:24 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:29 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:30 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:32 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:32 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:33 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:33 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:33 | |
| -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:34 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:35 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@179.43.177.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 09:35 | |
| -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EAF05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:37 | |
| -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 09:37 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-41-25.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:38 | |
| -!- prodatalab [~prodatala@nj-71-0-106-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:38 | |
| -!- platinuum [sid21283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pajiuojiyvlqnccn] has quit [] | 09:40 | |
| -!- platinuum [sid21283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wqbpvzrhgnwqngyv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:40 | |
| -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:45 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-41-25.revip.asianet.co.th] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 09:50 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.19.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 09:54 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.39.88] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:55 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 09:56 | |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 10:00 | |
| -!- SDCDev [~quassel@unaffiliated/sdcdev] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:03 | |
| -!- BigBitz [~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 10:06 | |
| -!- jbenet [sid17552@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpcvnkivywpowsfl] has quit [] | 10:06 | |
| -!- jbenet [sid17552@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-niogvpibkadovdmk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:07 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 10:08 | |
| -!- SDCDev [~quassel@unaffiliated/sdcdev] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 10:10 | |
| -!- SDCDev [~quassel@unaffiliated/sdcdev] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:12 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:12 | |
| -!- CoinMuncher2 [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 10:14 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:21 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@179.43.177.130] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:21 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:30 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 10:31 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:31 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 10:32 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-13-10.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:32 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.39.88] has quit [Excess Flood] | 10:41 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:45 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 10:47 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:47 | |
| -!- spinza [~spin@197.89.39.88] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:48 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 10:48 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 10:48 | |
| -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Quit: reconnecting] | 10:49 | |
| -!- rustyn [~rustyn@unaffiliated/rustyn] has quit [Quit: off to lithuania] | 10:52 | |
| -!- shaul [~shaul@static-108-30-103-59.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:54 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:56 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@72.42.70.210] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 10:59 | |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:01 | |
| -!- zooko` [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:02 | |
| -!- kmels [~kmels@186.64.110.122] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:02 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@72.42.70.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 11:04 | |
| -!- _biO_ [~biO_@80.156.183.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 11:05 | |
| -!- shaul_ [~shaul@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/shaul] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:06 | |
| -!- shaul [~shaul@static-108-30-103-59.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 11:09 | |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 11:16 | |
| -!- nabu [~nabu@179.43.174.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:16 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 11:18 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:18 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] | 11:19 | |
| -!- pgokeeffe [~pgokeeffe@101.165.93.194] has quit [Quit: pgokeeffe] | 11:22 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:25 | |
| -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:27 | |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:27 | |
| -!- dc17523be3 [unknown@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-xqhpqhzavwjloeqo] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 11:30 | |
| -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:30 | |
| -!- dc17523be3 [~unknown@193.138.219.233] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:32 | |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@wired094.math.utah.edu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:37 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] | 11:43 | |
| -!- sparetire_ [~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:50 | |
| -!- shaul_ [~shaul@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/shaul] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 11:55 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-13-10.revip.asianet.co.th] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 11:55 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3A97A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Xh1pher] | 11:56 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3A97A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:56 | |
| -!- c-cex-yuriy [uid76808@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fcempopziutmhgzi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 11:58 | |
| -!- zooko` is now known as zooko | 11:59 | |
| -!- shaul [~shaul@static-108-30-103-59.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 12:04 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 12:04 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 12:06 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3A97A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 12:08 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3988A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 12:08 | |
| -!- shaul [~shaul@static-108-30-103-59.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 12:08 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 12:10 | |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 12:19 | |
| -!- Xh1pher [~Xh1pher@pD9E3988A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 12:27 | |
| -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-78-176.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 12:27 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 12:28 | |
| jonasschnelli | Does anyone know what keypath Electrums multisig wallet uses? Probably not bip44 conform because it only asks me after a the master pub key (bip44 goes over hardened keys). | 12:39 |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 12:42 | |
| -!- psztorc [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 12:43 | |
| kanzure | there are many electrum multisig classes, including some legacy implementations | 13:00 |
| kanzure | which i believe are still kept in the source code, should be easy to dig them up | 13:01 |
| -!- hearn_ [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:04 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 13:07 | |
| -!- hearn_ [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 13:10 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:11 | |
| -!- kmels [~kmels@186.64.110.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 13:13 | |
| jcorgan | jonasschnelli: i don't know the exact key path but i do know it is know bip44 | 13:14 |
| -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 13:16 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@179.43.177.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 13:22 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 13:25 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:25 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:29 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:32 | |
| -!- lmatteis [uid3300@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyrzxbstigmxulvc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:42 | |
| lmatteis | is anybody familiar with how Nxt's proof-of-stake system works? i've been studying it in depth for the past week and still have some concerns about its functionality | 13:43 |
| lmatteis | because the forging (aka mining) happens based on which "active account" has most coins (and some other random stuff) | 13:43 |
| lmatteis | but i don't understand what's then stopping someone from simply forging their own chain, sort of pretending they were the only ones online at that moment, and broadcasting such chain | 13:44 |
| lmatteis | what's stopping peers from accepting such chain? | 13:44 |
| -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.176.95.206] has quit [] | 13:47 | |
| Luke-Jr | lmatteis: probably nothing; ##altcoin-dev though | 13:48 |
| lmatteis | ok | 13:49 |
| lmatteis | even though "This channel is is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies" | 13:49 |
| -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EAF05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 13:51 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 13:53 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:56 | |
| -!- zooko [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 13:57 | |
| -!- Artimage [d88b8b32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.139.139.50] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] | 13:57 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 14:00 | |
| lmatteis | "other peers will reject this 20 blocks chain since they can calculate that the forger forged the blocks before its due time." | 14:07 |
| -!- drwin [~drwin@88-103-255-166.jes.cz] has quit [] | 14:07 | |
| lmatteis | that's what i got from the forums | 14:07 |
| -!- zooko [~user@c-71-229-205-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] | 14:07 | |
| lmatteis | but i mean, time could still be simulated :/ | 14:10 |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:10 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:11 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:11 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:11 | |
| -!- nullbyte [~NSA@cpe-70-117-125-10.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:13 | |
| tromp_ | if you timestamp blocks with a future time, then they will be either dropped or delayed until the timestamp is reached | 14:17 |
| -!- b_lumenkraft [~b_lumenkr@unaffiliated/b-lumenkraft/x-4457406] has quit [Quit: b_lumenkraft] | 14:18 | |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, PoS people have wasted an enormous amount of review time on ever more complicated systems which are still fundamentally broken | 14:19 |
| phantomcircuit | so please dont talk about them here | 14:19 |
| andytoshi | please no NXT discussion here, they have been historically very antagonistic toward the goal of cryptocurrency research | 14:19 |
| andytoshi | oh thx :) | 14:19 |
| -!- ASTP001 [~ASTP001@50-78-139-78-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 14:19 | |
| lmatteis | really? | 14:19 |
| lmatteis | i found lots of good research-y papers | 14:19 |
| lmatteis | and i don't see why they would hurt cryptocurrency research | 14:20 |
| andytoshi | lmatteis: yeah, they constantly change their (badly underspecified) design goals and strategies, and publish things that are hard to read and whose ideas have been repeatedly demonstrated to be broken | 14:21 |
| andytoshi | well, they hurt it by wasting researchers' time and energy | 14:21 |
| andytoshi | and they have no reason -not- to do so, it's not like they need that time or energy for anything.. | 14:21 |
| lmatteis | weird | 14:21 |
| lmatteis | they seem like a well-minded community, not trying to waste people's time | 14:22 |
| andytoshi | agreed. but they are far from the only ones :/ | 14:22 |
| nsh | conversation is good, so more conversation must be better? even if some of the conversation is just people repeating the chant "i know a song that'll get on your nerves, get on your nerves, get on your nerves" but with a variations on the theme of throwing complexity at a hard problem until you can't see why you haven't solved it | 14:22 |
| lmatteis | well to be frank, you're guys counter arguments are also "conversation"... has there been experiments to disproof Nxt's PoS system? | 14:23 |
| lmatteis | *your | 14:23 |
| -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards ["WeeChat 1.1.1"] | 14:23 | |
| -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 14:25 | |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, after the roughly 1000th hour of wasted effort people decided to stop showing them why they're wrong | 14:25 |
| -!- nullbyte [~NSA@cpe-70-117-125-10.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 14:25 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:25 | |
| phantomcircuit | if they would like to pay for review time, im sure they can find someone interested | 14:25 |
| phantomcircuit | but the gravy train of free indepth reviews is long since used up | 14:25 |
| lmatteis | phantomcircuit: ok, so all PoS system so far have lacked the empirical evidence to show their system actually worked? | 14:25 |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, they're fundamentally broken by "nothing at stake" | 14:26 |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:26 | |
| phantomcircuit | and look you made andytoshi leave | 14:26 |
| phantomcircuit | that's how annoying they are | 14:26 |
| lmatteis | i'm not a Nxt user, i'm just trying to understand how a top 10 cryptocurrency is fundamentally broken | 14:26 |
| fluffypony | the larger problem, lmatteis, is that researchers don't have the time and energy to *prove* that something is broken, when their research is typically geared towards figuring out what is not | 14:27 |
| fluffypony | so then you get people who are not cryptographers, who sometimes have their ideas gently put down (and sometimes not-so-gently) | 14:27 |
| fluffypony | and instead of going "ok, I am now going to figure out why that's a dumb idea" | 14:28 |
| fluffypony | they go "ZOMG THEY HATE ME" and barrel ahead with their dumb idea | 14:28 |
| lmatteis | i agree. if it's a silly project that nobody backs, who cares. there's tons of silly ideas in the world | 14:28 |
| fluffypony | they take it as a personal affront, which it is not (I have dumb ideas all the time, I'm only offended when those smarter than I *don't* put that out to me) | 14:28 |
| lmatteis | but Nxt is backed by actual money, wouldn't you agree? | 14:28 |
| fluffypony | so you're saying that there have never been people that have put money into companies without understanding the deep technical intricacies of the company's product? | 14:29 |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, money doesn't make things smart; see ripple/stellar | 14:29 |
| fluffypony | yup | 14:29 |
| lmatteis | ok | 14:30 |
| lmatteis | not just money, popularity, wiki pages, blog posts and articles | 14:30 |
| fluffypony | cryptocurrency is a particularly bad spot, because the investment is not coming from measured, intelligent investors who are risk averse | 14:30 |
| fluffypony | it's from seat-of-the-pants investors who think they're going to see many-thousands-of-percent increases in a short space of time | 14:30 |
| fluffypony | it's the new VC gig, cheaper and faster than building a startup into a slightly larger husk and then exiting | 14:31 |
| -!- koine [~k0ine@50.248.81.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:31 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:31 | |
| -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@bzq-82-81-4-52.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 14:31 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 14:32 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:32 | |
| lmatteis | don't you find it weird that, given the idea's popularity, we haven't seen empirical evidence that shows its flaws? | 14:33 |
| -!- koine [~smik@50.248.81.66] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:33 | |
| lmatteis | i mean, we're not talking about just a bad company or startup | 14:33 |
| lmatteis | but an idea that powers several cryptos, no? | 14:33 |
| fluffypony | there's not enough market capitalisation to make it interesting to the really motivated attackers | 14:33 |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf | 14:34 |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:34 | |
| phantomcircuit | rom the topic http://bitcoin.ninja/ | 14:34 |
| lmatteis | phantomcircuit: i read that a while ago, and highlights lots of interesting points. not with evidence though :( | 14:35 |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, nobody has time to break version 1020202 of nxt | 14:35 |
| -!- koshii [~w@c-68-58-151-30.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 14:35 | |
| phantomcircuit | since they'll just modify things and call it 1020203 | 14:35 |
| kanzure | nobody would accept the results of a limited break of proof-of-stake | 14:35 |
| kanzure | they will say "oh, well we can just add this extra dongle here and your hax no longer haxors" | 14:36 |
| lmatteis | phantomcircuit: ah i didn't even know they do that | 14:36 |
| fluffypony | yup, layering complexity | 14:36 |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, their entire business is built around making it difficult to analzye the underlying protocol | 14:36 |
| phantomcircuit | and when someone does find a break | 14:36 |
| kanzure | the point is that most minimum modifications to proof-of-stake are trivially beatable; this is not effortlessly beatable, but rather constantly beatable. it's not impressive to have something that you can make hard in a small amount of constant time, that's totally pointless and infuriating. | 14:36 |
| phantomcircuit | they simply modify the entire protocol to make it more complicated and harder to understand | 14:36 |
| lmatteis | ah wow ok | 14:37 |
| kanzure | yes, of course nobody is going to sit here and endlessly break all constant-time additions someone makes to proof-of-stake -_- duh | 14:37 |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:37 | |
| -!- nullbyte [~NSA@cpe-70-117-125-10.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:38 | |
| kanzure | i don't think anyone would accept a minimum-viable attack against proof-of-stake, because they will just say "proof-of-stake has already been modified to be slightly different". do you disagree that it would still be worthile ? | 14:39 |
| -!- koshii [~w@c-68-58-151-30.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:39 | |
| kanzure | *worthwhile | 14:39 |
| fluffypony | it's like continuing to use MD5 but just using a longer salt :-P | 14:40 |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:40 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:41 | |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@wired094.math.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 14:41 | |
| -!- jps [~Jud@198.199.83.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 14:42 | |
| -!- jps [~Jud@198.199.83.156] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:42 | |
| -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.176.95.206] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:43 | |
| kanzure | fluffypony: except nobody will complain that "well md5 is still safe if you use a 1024-bit salt" | 14:45 |
| fluffypony | yeah, people get stupider when there's money and the hope of profit | 14:46 |
| fluffypony | sigh, much greed | 14:46 |
| lmatteis | ok the differences didn't seem that subtle | 14:46 |
| lmatteis | i actually thought it worked and wanted to know how | 14:46 |
| lmatteis | like i thought it was a working alternative to PoW | 14:47 |
| lmatteis | but i guess not | 14:47 |
| -!- psztorc [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:47 | |
| -!- psztorc is now known as Guest29364 | 14:47 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 14:47 | |
| kanzure | lmatteis: it depends on what you mean by working. | 14:48 |
| fluffypony | it does work, as long as the only attackers are rank amateurs | 14:49 |
| lmatteis | a system that has been proven to work... that resisted the use of many different types of attacks for many years without having to change the protocol in a major way | 14:49 |
| kanzure | alternatively: "or it does work, if your concern about security is sufficiently strange" | 14:49 |
| lmatteis | i also find it interesting, more theoretically, that Nxt uses a different distribution scenario where all coins are distributed at first, and then just moved around via transaction fees | 14:50 |
| lmatteis | (apart from PoS this is) | 14:50 |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@162.216.46.170] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:54 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 14:55 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 14:56 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Quit: Quitte] | 14:58 | |
| phantomcircuit | lmatteis, they resist analysis not attack | 15:05 |
| phantomcircuit | which is all you need for marketing it to suckers | 15:05 |
| -!- Tebbo [~Jerry`@ip72-211-88-176.no.no.cox.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:06 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [] | 15:08 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/erasmospunk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:10 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 15:11 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:11 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 15:13 | |
| -!- erasmospunk [~erasmospu@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/erasmospunk] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 15:15 | |
| leakypat | 6:33 AM <fluffypony> it's from seat-of-the-pants investors who think they're going to see many-thousands-of-percent increases in a short space of time | 15:17 |
| leakypat | ^ | 15:17 |
| fluffypony | also see: Darkcoin/Dash, Maidsafe, Ethereum | 15:17 |
| -!- shen_noe [~shen_noe@162.216.46.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 15:20 | |
| -!- jps_ [~Jud@cpe-74-65-202-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:23 | |
| -!- jps [~Jud@198.199.83.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 15:25 | |
| -!- jps_ is now known as jps | 15:25 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 15:26 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:26 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:26 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:26 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has quit [Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac] | 15:38 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:38 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 15:41 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:41 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 15:42 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:44 | |
| -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-197-78.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] | 15:49 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 15:49 | |
| -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 15:49 | |
| -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 15:52 | |
| -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:54 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 15:55 | |
| -!- digitalmagus [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:56 | |
| -!- digitalmagus8 [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 15:56 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 15:57 | |
| -!- mariorz [sid490@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hfgjakxxpgkebfil] has quit [] | 15:59 | |
| -!- mariorz [sid490@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfwsnuamtpywzbmr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 15:59 | |
| -!- Hunger- [~Hunger@proactivesec.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 16:02 | |
| -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:02 | |
| -!- c-cex-yuriy [uid76808@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fcempopziutmhgzi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 16:04 | |
| -!- digitalmagus8 [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:05 | |
| -!- digitalmagus [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 16:05 | |
| -!- yrashk [sid1568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssububmowllfrhne] has quit [] | 16:07 | |
| -!- yrashk [sid1568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgmvdpljginksaib] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:07 | |
| -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@38.121.165.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 16:12 | |
| -!- rrrandom [~user@5ec3233a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 16:16 | |
| -!- fkhan [~weechat@unaffiliated/loteriety] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 16:17 | |
| -!- dc17523be3 [~unknown@193.138.219.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 16:17 | |
| -!- dc17523be3 [~unknown@193.138.219.233] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:19 | |
| -!- lmatteis [uid3300@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyrzxbstigmxulvc] has quit [] | 16:19 | |
| -!- Starduster [~guest@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 16:19 | |
| -!- lmatteis [uid3300@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhjrwjfqymbnpbdf] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:19 | |
| -!- GAit [~lnahum@2-230-161-158.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 16:22 | |
| -!- Starduster [~guest@unaffiliated/starduster] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:29 | |
| -!- fkhan [~weechat@unaffiliated/loteriety] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:31 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:35 | |
| -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:35 | |
| -!- pgokeeffe [~pgokeeffe@101.165.93.194] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 16:59 | |
| -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 17:01 | |
| -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 17:03 | |
| -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:04 | |
| -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] | 17:07 | |
| -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:08 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 17:16 | |
| -!- FranzKafka [~FranzKafk@unaffiliated/franzkafka] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:20 | |
| -!- Aquentin [~Aquentin@unaffiliated/aquentin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 17:24 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 17:25 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:27 | |
| -!- michagogo [uid14316@wikia/Michagogo] has quit [] | 17:30 | |
| -!- nullbyte [~NSA@cpe-70-117-125-10.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 17:31 | |
| -!- michagogo [uid14316@wikia/Michagogo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:31 | |
| -!- digitalmagus8 [~digitalma@unaffiliated/digitalmagus] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 17:31 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:33 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:35 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has quit [Client Quit] | 17:35 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 17:36 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:36 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:38 | |
| -!- alexwaters [~alexwater@unaffiliated/matth1a3] has quit [Client Quit] | 17:38 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 17:47 | |
| -!- prodatalab [~prodatala@nj-71-0-106-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] | 17:51 | |
| -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrqpsbadyowxomku] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 18:03 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@204.14.159.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 18:09 | |
| -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 18:15 | |
| -!- Guest29364 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 18:27 | |
| -!- hihellosup [4751c48e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.81.196.142] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 18:29 | |
| -!- hihellosup [4751c48e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.81.196.142] has quit [] | 18:31 | |
| -!- Dr-G [~Dr-G@unaffiliated/dr-g] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 18:49 | |
| -!- Dr-G2 [~Dr-G@x4d08d6ae.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] | 18:53 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 18:54 | |
| -!- lmatteis [uid3300@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhjrwjfqymbnpbdf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 18:59 | |
| -!- CodeShark [~textual@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 19:01 | |
| -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:09 | |
| -!- hihellosup [4751c48e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.81.196.142] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:15 | |
| -!- hihellosup [4751c48e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.81.196.142] has quit [Client Quit] | 19:16 | |
| -!- CodeShark [~textual@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:21 | |
| -!- trixisowned [~skdsfhshf@173.44.55.155] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:26 | |
| -!- paavokoya [uid24867@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ljwdimscavtjlgtl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:27 | |
| -!- phib0 [68cf880f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.207.136.15] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:27 | |
| paavokoya | i am paavo | 19:27 |
| -!- phib0 [68cf880f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.207.136.15] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] | 19:27 | |
| -!- paavokoya [uid24867@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ljwdimscavtjlgtl] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] | 19:27 | |
| -!- kerneloops [~Tee@cpe-76-174-180-4.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I rage quit!] | 19:29 | |
| -!- dabura667 [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ewpaczkftkcpvozu] has quit [] | 19:33 | |
| -!- dabura667 [sid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kpfeggqqheebqjco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:33 | |
| -!- richardus [~richardus@2605:2700:0:3::4713:9a16] has quit [Quit: que faire quand on a tout fait tout lu, tout bu, tout mangé tout donné en vrac et en détail quand on a crié sur tous les toîts pleuré et ris dans les villes et en campagne] | 19:36 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@c-73-142-181-219.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:38 | |
| -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 19:44 | |
| -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:45 | |
| -!- sneak [~sneak@unaffiliated/sneak] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 19:54 | |
| -!- sneak [~sneak@2a01:4f8:141:ffc:45e9:6a75:6b9f:e7f] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:54 | |
| -!- sneak [~sneak@2a01:4f8:141:ffc:45e9:6a75:6b9f:e7f] has quit [Changing host] | 19:54 | |
| -!- sneak [~sneak@unaffiliated/sneak] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:54 | |
| -!- Xzibit17_ [sid50165@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfxbhwmmwiwcbwyy] has quit [] | 19:55 | |
| -!- Xzibit17_ [sid50165@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfijfwhagthzsklr] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 19:55 | |
| -!- jtimon [~quassel@200.Red-79-148-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 19:58 | |
| -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz | 19:59 | |
| -!- c0rw|zZz [~c0rw1n@91.176.95.206] has quit [] | 19:59 | |
| -!- Guest20077 [~user@5ec3233a.skybroadband.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:00 | |
| -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xntcvcxowocmrbln] has quit [] | 20:05 | |
| -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlbujmijpiakuylj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:05 | |
| -!- Tebbo` [~Jerry`@ip72-211-88-176.no.no.cox.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:07 | |
| -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 20:08 | |
| -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:10 | |
| -!- Tebbo [~Jerry`@ip72-211-88-176.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] | 20:10 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-8-34.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:23 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:23 | |
| -!- Guest29364 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:24 | |
| -!- michagogo [uid14316@wikia/Michagogo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 20:40 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 20:52 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 20:52 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@c-98-234-63-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 21:10 | |
| -!- bedeho [~bedeho@ti0128a400-3195.bb.online.no] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 21:12 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@c-98-234-63-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] | 21:14 | |
| -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@c-73-142-181-219.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [] | 21:27 | |
| -!- jtrag [~jtrag@69.80.81.189] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 21:32 | |
| -!- Guest29364 [~psztorc@ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 21:44 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 21:53 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] | 21:57 | |
| -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:02 | |
| -!- yosss [~chatzilla@ppp-61-90-8-34.revip.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0/20150630154324]] | 22:04 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@2601:645:c001:263a:75ac:8379:f480:ee88] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:04 | |
| -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlbujmijpiakuylj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 22:15 | |
| -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-185-201-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | 22:18 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@2601:645:c001:263a:75ac:8379:f480:ee88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | 22:19 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@2601:645:c001:263a:75ac:8379:f480:ee88] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:19 | |
| -!- Hunger- [hunger@proactivesec.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:24 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] | 22:26 | |
| -!- jtrag [~jtrag@69.80.81.189] has quit [Quit: jtrag has left the channel :-( ©ya! ®™] | 22:29 | |
| -!- b_lumenkraft [~b_lumenkr@unaffiliated/b-lumenkraft/x-4457406] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:34 | |
| -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgmucpzzkdfsnnex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:35 | |
| -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrqpsbadyowxomku] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] | 22:43 | |
| -!- wyager [~wyager@99-9-209-71.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:56 | |
| -!- MoALTz_ [~no@78.11.179.104] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 22:57 | |
| -!- MoALTz [~no@78.11.179.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 23:00 | |
| -!- Quashie__ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] | 23:29 | |
| -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] | 23:30 | |
| -!- davi [~davi@gnu/davi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 23:31 | |
| -!- Mably [~Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 23:49 | |
| -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 23:51 | |
| -!- davi [~davi@gnu/davi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 23:51 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 23:53 | |
| -!- p15x [~p15x@64.145.91.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards | 23:54 | |
| -!- Tebbo` [~Jerry`@ip72-211-88-176.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 23:56 | |
| -!- tromp__ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 23:57 | |
| -!- jaekwon [~jaekwon@2601:645:c001:263a:75ac:8379:f480:ee88] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | 23:58 | |
| --- Log closed Fri Jul 24 00:00:20 2015 | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.0.dev0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!