2015-07-23.log

--- Log opened Thu Jul 23 00:00:19 2015
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yosss.01:59
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waxwingi guess people here already know about this? http://enigma.media.mit.edu/enigma_full.pdf02:33
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moawaxwing: interesting enigma ... taking on some hefty issues squarely03:55
waxwinglet's hope nobody finds any cribs ;)03:57
moascalability and privacy03:57
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moathe blockchain becomes a verifiable index for computational data stored in the dht04:07
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AaronvanWwaxwing: which blockchain will enigma use?04:27
waxwingAaronvanW: i didn't read it all, i got the impression bitcoin though04:28
AaronvanWwaxwing: I think not04:28
waxwinghttp://www.wired.com/2015/06/mits-bitcoin-inspired-enigma-lets-computers-mine-encrypted-data/04:31
waxwing^ quote in the article suggests they do04:31
waxwing"Every time someone requests a computation from the Enigma network, he or she pays a bitcoin fee. A tiny part of that money is paid to a computer in the bitcoin network to record Enigma’s metadata in the blockchain"04:31
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waxwing i mean, it doesn't actually exist of course04:32
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AaronvanWwaxwing: looks like you might be right. it's confusing because in one article it says it uses technology "inspired by Bitcoin", and in the next it seems to actually use Bitcoin04:34
waxwingit's hard nowadays since blockchain became the word-du-jour .. the journalists tend to just stop there.04:35
waxwingi agree the paper seems to be a bit agnostic04:35
AaronvanWwaxwing: well, I am a journalist and I'm actually trying to find out which one it is ;)04:36
waxwingAaronvanW: hah!04:37
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AaronvanWbut yeah, it does seem a bit agnostic, I guess that's a pretty good way to put it04:38
AaronvanWmight use that :p04:38
waxwingAaronvanW: well in these kind of applications they tend to "fall back" to Bitcoin, although knowing they don't necessarily need to use it, because the stability/security from the hashpower makes it the obvious choice. That's my read.04:39
waxwingthis is mainly about MPC though, and what always seemed to kill that off was the enormous interactivity.04:41
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jonasschnelliDoes anyone know what keypath Electrums multisig wallet uses? Probably not bip44 conform because it only asks me after a the master pub key (bip44 goes over hardened keys).12:39
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kanzurethere are many electrum multisig classes, including some legacy implementations13:00
kanzurewhich i believe are still kept in the source code, should be easy to dig them up13:01
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jcorganjonasschnelli: i don't know the exact key path but i do know it is know bip4413:14
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lmatteisis anybody familiar with how Nxt's proof-of-stake system works? i've been studying it in depth for the past week and still have some concerns about its functionality13:43
lmatteisbecause the forging (aka mining) happens based on which "active account" has most coins (and some other random stuff)13:43
lmatteisbut i don't understand what's then stopping someone from simply forging their own chain, sort of pretending they were the only ones online at that moment, and broadcasting such chain13:44
lmatteiswhat's stopping peers from accepting such chain?13:44
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Luke-Jrlmatteis: probably nothing; ##altcoin-dev though13:48
lmatteisok13:49
lmatteiseven though "This channel is  is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies"13:49
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lmatteis"other peers will reject this 20 blocks chain since they can calculate that the forger forged the blocks before its due time."14:07
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lmatteisthat's what i got from the forums14:07
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lmatteisbut i mean, time could still be simulated :/14:10
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tromp_if you timestamp blocks with a future time, then they will be either dropped or delayed until the timestamp is reached14:17
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phantomcircuitlmatteis, PoS people have wasted an enormous amount of review time on ever more complicated systems which are still fundamentally broken14:19
phantomcircuitso please dont talk about them here14:19
andytoshiplease no NXT discussion here, they have been historically very antagonistic toward the goal of cryptocurrency research14:19
andytoshioh thx :)14:19
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lmatteisreally?14:19
lmatteisi found lots of good research-y papers14:19
lmatteisand i don't see why they would hurt cryptocurrency research14:20
andytoshilmatteis: yeah, they constantly change their (badly underspecified) design goals and strategies, and publish things that are hard to read and whose ideas have been repeatedly demonstrated to be broken14:21
andytoshiwell, they hurt it by wasting researchers' time and energy14:21
andytoshiand they have no reason -not- to do so, it's not like they need that time or energy for anything..14:21
lmatteisweird14:21
lmatteisthey seem like a well-minded community, not trying to waste people's time14:22
andytoshiagreed. but they are far from the only ones :/14:22
nshconversation is good, so more conversation must be better? even if some of the conversation is just people repeating the chant "i know a song that'll get on your nerves, get on your nerves, get on your nerves" but with a variations on the theme of throwing complexity at a hard problem until you can't see why you haven't solved it14:22
lmatteiswell to be frank, you're guys counter arguments are also "conversation"... has there been experiments to disproof Nxt's PoS system?14:23
lmatteis*your14:23
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phantomcircuitlmatteis, after the roughly 1000th hour of wasted effort people decided to stop showing them why they're wrong14:25
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phantomcircuitif they would like to pay for review time, im sure they can find someone interested14:25
phantomcircuitbut the gravy train of free indepth reviews is long since used up14:25
lmatteisphantomcircuit: ok, so all PoS system so far have lacked the empirical evidence to show their system actually worked?14:25
phantomcircuitlmatteis, they're fundamentally broken by "nothing at stake"14:26
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phantomcircuitand look you made andytoshi leave14:26
phantomcircuitthat's how annoying they are14:26
lmatteisi'm not a Nxt user, i'm just trying to understand how a top 10 cryptocurrency is fundamentally broken14:26
fluffyponythe larger problem, lmatteis, is that researchers don't have the time and energy to *prove* that something is broken, when their research is typically geared towards figuring out what is not14:27
fluffyponyso then you get people who are not cryptographers, who sometimes have their ideas gently put down (and sometimes not-so-gently)14:27
fluffyponyand instead of going "ok, I am now going to figure out why that's a dumb idea"14:28
fluffyponythey go "ZOMG THEY HATE ME" and barrel ahead with their dumb idea14:28
lmatteisi agree. if it's a silly project that nobody backs, who cares. there's tons of silly ideas in the world14:28
fluffyponythey take it as a personal affront, which it is not (I have dumb ideas all the time, I'm only offended when those smarter than I *don't* put that out to me)14:28
lmatteisbut Nxt is backed by actual money, wouldn't you agree?14:28
fluffyponyso you're saying that there have never been people that have put money into companies without understanding the deep technical intricacies of the company's product?14:29
phantomcircuitlmatteis, money doesn't make things smart; see ripple/stellar14:29
fluffyponyyup14:29
lmatteisok14:30
lmatteisnot just money, popularity, wiki pages, blog posts and articles14:30
fluffyponycryptocurrency is a particularly bad spot, because the investment is not coming from measured, intelligent investors who are risk averse14:30
fluffyponyit's from seat-of-the-pants investors who think they're going to see many-thousands-of-percent increases in a short space of time14:30
fluffyponyit's the new VC gig, cheaper and faster than building a startup into a slightly larger husk and then exiting14:31
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lmatteisdon't you find it weird that, given the idea's popularity, we haven't seen empirical evidence that shows its flaws?14:33
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lmatteisi mean, we're not talking about just a bad company or startup14:33
lmatteisbut an idea that powers several cryptos, no?14:33
fluffyponythere's not enough market capitalisation to make it interesting to the really motivated attackers14:33
phantomcircuitlmatteis, https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf14:34
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phantomcircuitrom the topic http://bitcoin.ninja/14:34
lmatteisphantomcircuit: i read that a while ago, and highlights lots of interesting points. not with evidence though :(14:35
phantomcircuitlmatteis, nobody has time to break version 1020202 of nxt14:35
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phantomcircuitsince they'll just modify things and call it 102020314:35
kanzurenobody would accept the results of a limited break of proof-of-stake14:35
kanzurethey will say "oh, well we can just add this extra dongle here and your hax no longer haxors"14:36
lmatteisphantomcircuit: ah i didn't even know they do that14:36
fluffyponyyup, layering complexity14:36
phantomcircuitlmatteis, their entire business is built around making it difficult to analzye the underlying protocol14:36
phantomcircuitand when someone does find a break14:36
kanzurethe point is that most minimum modifications to proof-of-stake are trivially beatable; this is not effortlessly beatable, but rather constantly beatable. it's not impressive to have something that you can make hard in a small amount of constant time, that's totally pointless and infuriating.14:36
phantomcircuitthey simply modify the entire protocol to make it more complicated and harder to understand14:36
lmatteisah wow ok14:37
kanzureyes, of course nobody is going to sit here and endlessly break all constant-time additions someone makes to proof-of-stake -_- duh14:37
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kanzurei don't think anyone would accept a minimum-viable attack against proof-of-stake, because they will just say "proof-of-stake has already been modified to be slightly different". do you disagree that it would still be worthile ?14:39
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kanzure*worthwhile14:39
fluffyponyit's like continuing to use MD5 but just using a longer salt :-P14:40
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kanzurefluffypony: except nobody will complain that "well md5 is still safe if you use a 1024-bit salt"14:45
fluffyponyyeah, people get stupider when there's money and the hope of profit14:46
fluffyponysigh, much greed14:46
lmatteisok the differences didn't seem that subtle14:46
lmatteisi actually thought it worked and wanted to know how14:46
lmatteislike i thought it was a working alternative to PoW14:47
lmatteisbut i guess not14:47
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kanzurelmatteis: it depends on what you mean by working.14:48
fluffyponyit does work, as long as the only attackers are rank amateurs14:49
lmatteisa system that has been proven to work... that resisted the use of many different types of attacks for many years without having to change the protocol in a major way14:49
kanzurealternatively: "or it does work, if your concern about security is sufficiently strange"14:49
lmatteisi also find it interesting, more theoretically, that Nxt uses a different distribution scenario where all coins are distributed at first, and then just moved around via transaction fees14:50
lmatteis(apart from PoS this is)14:50
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phantomcircuitlmatteis, they resist analysis not attack15:05
phantomcircuitwhich is all you need for marketing it to suckers15:05
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leakypat6:33 AM <fluffypony> it's from seat-of-the-pants investors who think they're going to see many-thousands-of-percent increases in a short space of time15:17
leakypat^15:17
fluffyponyalso see: Darkcoin/Dash, Maidsafe, Ethereum15:17
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