2015-09-06.log

--- Log opened Sun Sep 06 00:00:02 2015
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kang_phantomcircuit: Is it bad because it is hard to do?00:11
GreenIsMyPepperkang_: synchronized mempools is bad because it encourages everyone to have the same mempool policy, there are centralization and some fungibility risks to consider as a result00:15
GreenIsMyPeppers/bad/potentially problematic/00:15
CodeSharkseparation between the consensus layer and peer services seems like a generally good architectural principle :)00:19
CodeSharkthe cryptographic commitment structures shouldn't really care about how messages get propagated on the network00:20
CodeSharkthere should be no provisions for preserving order or having the same view of the network00:21
CodeSharkI mean, preserving order of message propagation00:21
CodeSharkbecause none of this stuff is ultimately enforceable by the consensus layer00:21
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CodeSharkit is always possible to send transactions directly to miners to include in blocks00:26
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CodeSharkalso, it limits our ablity to upgrade the networking protocols themselves00:30
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CodeSharki,e, it might turn out that onion-routing transactions directly to miners is more efficient than flooding :)00:54
CodeSharkand possibly more private as well00:56
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moaCodeShark and may open up opportunities for pay-per-routing models using bitcoin payment channels01:05
CodeSharkindeed01:06
CodeSharkso it might also go some ways towards solving the incentives issues and preventing DoS in a more economically sensible manner01:06
CodeSharkand it opens up the door to directly negotiating fees with miners, perhaps01:07
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kanzurehas anyone done merkle mountain ranges with graph structures instead of just linear history data stuff?19:59
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petertod1kanzure: actually yes! I've got a rather trippy looking page in my notebook somewhere on that23:07
kanzurethank you, lazyweb23:07
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kanzuredunno why i needed that at the time, but it seems like it would be useful because transaction graphs23:08
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