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| nsh | .t http://bit.ly/1XlKgnA | 05:19 |
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| yoleaux | nsh: Sorry, I don't know what timezone that is. If in doubt, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones for a list of options. | 05:19 |
| nsh | .title http://bit.ly/1XlKgnA | 05:19 |
| yoleaux | A proposal towards Decentralized Autonomous Workers Councils using the blockchain | P2P Foundation | 05:19 |
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| OxADADA | The elegant irony of the term "Nakamoto Consensus" is that the Japanese ideograms of Nakamoto (中本) means "Central Truth" | 19:37 |
| OxADADA | so i hope whoever came up with the name "Nakamoto" placed the centrality in the math and not the politics :P | 19:39 |
| sipa | if that was intentional, it's the best troll in the history of mankind | 19:40 |
| sipa | satoshi really wanted central control :p | 19:40 |
| OxADADA | hehe, nakamoto literally wanted to be both the namesake and central authority. thats either the best troll ever, or horrifying. | 19:41 |
| OxADADA | i was biking home from the pub tonight, and realized that "Nakamoto" means "Central source" in Japanese and had to mention it in #bitcoin-wizards. | 19:42 |
| @gmaxwell | perhaps not really the right understanding of 'centeral' there. | 19:43 |
| @gmaxwell | like shared truth instead of imposed truth. | 19:43 |
| OxADADA | gmaxwell: thats my interpretation. the "central" truth is the shared truth. | 19:44 |
| CodeShark | according to ancestry.com, it actually means "central origin" - http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=nakamoto | 19:45 |
| CodeShark | but meh...I do not speak japanese and lack sufficient cultural context to weigh in | 19:45 |
| CodeShark | I thought that "moto" means "essence of" or something along those lines | 19:46 |
| OxADADA | CodeShark: yes, and no. Its 2 ideograms. Naka means central,median,middle, and "Moto" has more meanings including, "Truth, true, the source, the origin" | 19:46 |
| OxADADA | CodeShark: the company that invented MSG (the food flavoring agent) is calledd "Aji-no-Moto" which means "Flavor's'Origin" so in that sense, the "moto" part means "Origin" | 19:48 |
| OxADADA | CodeShark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajinomoto#Monosodium_glutamate | 19:49 |
| CodeShark | "moto" is very common in japanese names...my understanding (admittedly not such a great one) is that it typically suggests the essence of what is being referred to - but I see other translations, such as "the cause" or "the basis" or "the foundation" | 19:51 |
| CodeShark | presumably it doesn't map cleanly onto an indo-european root :p | 19:51 |
| OxADADA | CodeShark: i'm not arguing that. I agree. Naka=Central Moto=Origin,Truth,Book,Source,etc. Central Origin means quite a lot difference that Decentralized non-authority. | 19:52 |
| * OxADADA states my point | 19:53 | |
| * OxADADA shrugs | 19:53 | |
| @gmaxwell | well the blockchain is a central ledger (book) that gives an authortative ordering of transactions. | 19:54 |
| CodeShark | central source or central origin doesn't have to imply control. moreover, the concept of authority has lot of subtlety | 19:54 |
| OxADADA | gmaxwell: yes, its a centralized ledger that is decentralized in storate and verification :P | 19:55 |
| OxADADA | s/storate/storage | 19:55 |
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| OxADADA | neways, just stating an observation-connection i hoped others would find fun if they couldn't see past he Japanese language barrier. | 19:59 |
| CodeShark | it's a fun fact :) | 19:59 |
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