2015-11-02.log

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kanzurere: rr and panda and other deterministic debugging https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1049298609:49
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zookoPaging Jan Carlsson to the Zerocash desk.15:59
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bramcThis might be verging on something I should take into #bitcoin-dev, but I now have a data format for my merkle data structure worked out which may be final and semantics of how the root is calculated as well which may or may not be the same as what maaku's already implemented17:30
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bramcI'm assuming it's okay to require being told the amount of memory to use up front and then it preallocates all of it in one big allocation and does its own memory management internally.17:35
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bramcI'm making the API support 'storing' of arbitrary size strings (by hashing them, duh) and the methods are add() remove() is_included() and get_root()17:54
bramcget_root() works by lazy evaluation17:55
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bsm117532bramc: lazy evaluation is a good idea.  But then how do you traverse the tree?18:13
bsm117532e.g. to remove() don't you have to traverse from root, to find the leaf?  (I'm assuming that the contents would be kept in sorted order by the hash itself)  Then any add() or remove() would trigger the evaluation of get_root and sorting any dirty nodes?18:15
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bramcThat's weird, it looks like the channel logs are a bit busted21:31
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