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| MRL-Relay | [shen] AdrianG, it's not that they are "not secure in practice" it would be more correct to say that people don't necessarily trust the random oracle model - the reason is it approximates hash functions by a "truly random" function, which is obviously not true | 00:37 |
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| MRL-Relay | [shen] AdrianG see also: http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/22356/difference-between-hash-function-and-random-oracle | 00:37 |
| MRL-Relay | [shen] Usually the security in ring signature applciation is somehow related to the assumption that it is improbable to find the discrete log of something like hash_to_scalar(P)*G | 00:41 |
| MRL-Relay | [shen] (and variations of that assumption) | 00:41 |
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| stevenroose_ | Is it possible to create a safe recurring payments scheme using locktime and/or relative locktime? | 04:39 |
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| stevenroose_ | You could pay several months upfront using locktime and already hand the transactions to the recipient, but then they there is no real difference between prepaid and a subscription | 04:55 |
| stevenroose_ | Except that you can quit between two payments | 04:55 |
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| CiPi | http://www.ieet.org/images/uploads/my_precious_bitcoin.jpg | 05:12 |
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| CiPi2 | jcorgan, i will fuck your days. | 07:17 |
| CiPi2 | :) | 07:17 |
| CiPi2 | beleave me. | 07:17 |
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| region33 | jcorgan; You`re too old for this shit. :). I don`t understand why and old man like you looses his time in this way. You don`t have much time to live and you already lost the bitcoin train. Even if you ban me again. I can get in, time and time again, and speak whatever i want, where i want. You`re helpless and is nothing you can do about it. :) | 07:43 |
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| coinoperated | http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0096300315010619 | 09:18 |
| coinoperated | .title | 09:18 |
| yoleaux | The peloton superorganism and protocooperative behavior | 09:18 |
| coinoperated | also, selfish drafting attacks | 09:18 |
| bsm117532 | That looks like an exercise in using as many made-up words as possible. | 09:19 |
| coinoperated | plot twist: all words are made up | 09:20 |
| kanzure | but some have consensus | 09:25 |
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| coinoperated | proof of homework | 09:37 |
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| roconnor | In a TX, the signature of a script is stripped out of the subscript ... is there any possible way that a valid signature could ever appear in the subscript? | 21:06 |
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| phantomcircuit | roconnor, huh? | 21:30 |
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| roconnor | phantomcircuit: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/7/70/Bitcoin_OpCheckSig_InDetail.png In step 3 the signature inside a subscript is stripped if it exists. | 21:36 |
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| roconnor | but if the signature is valid, it is a signature of some variant of TxNew, but TxNew contains the hash of TxPrev, which cointains all the data that appears in the subscript. | 21:37 |
| phantomcircuit | roconnor, well yeah you cant sign the signature | 21:37 |
| roconnor | So it is just another bit of bitcoin weirdness rather than anything subtle? | 21:38 |
| phantomcircuit | roconnor, bitcoin is weird in that the inputs are signed at all | 21:39 |
| phantomcircuit | i never understood that | 21:39 |
| roconnor | phantomcircuit: a complicated way of putting the OutPoint into the data being signed? | 21:42 |
| phantomcircuit | roconnor, ok but even then why | 21:43 |
| phantomcircuit | oh address reuse | 21:43 |
| phantomcircuit | duh | 21:43 |
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