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dansmith_btcCould someone please remind me why transaction malleability cannot be solved by not hashing the signature?05:45
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phantomcircuitdansmith_btc, it can be, but making that a consensus rule would be a hardfork if done naively05:49
phantomcircuitsegwit is more or less doing that with a softfork05:49
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MRL-Relay[othe] could you guys stop calling something softfork which will break every third party library? ... It´s extremely misleading for users07:25
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instagibbscontext?07:27
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fluffyponyinstagibbs: "<phantomcircuit>segwit is more or less doing that with a softfork"07:49
fluffyponyI believe he's referring to usage like that07:49
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instagibbsnot sure what the issue is then08:13
instagibbsit's exactly what it is08:14
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instagibbsunless anyonecanspend was a big part of your wallet software :)08:15
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nshif wallets are built with a dependency on transaction malleability, then they arguably need to be broken. however there is obviously room and utility in minimising and giving good forward guidance on possible incidental incompatibilities introduced with 3rd party software due to soft-fork changes09:34
nshi don't think there's any objection to that09:35
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@kanzure"need to be broken" i thought they were already broken10:31
instagibbsyou'd have to be depending on malleating other people's transactions, which would be weird. You're free to continue using malleable ones yourself.10:31
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super3hello12:59
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PeterRIs adlai here?13:55
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coinoperated@PeterR  ping him, or PM.  depending on his client it might alert him somehow14:48
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* adlai waves to PeterR15:09
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PeterRHey adlai!  I was wondering if you'd be able to chat offline (email or skype) regarding the idea we discussed last week regarding the two editorials for Ledger15:14
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PeterRHaha but I actually don't know who you are nor how to contact you.  My email is peter_r@gmx.com.15:24
* adlai replies via email15:24
PeterRThanks!15:25
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