2016-02-12.log

--- Log opened Fri Feb 12 00:00:30 2016
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nshCLTV?01:50
nshoh, checklocktimeverify01:50
nsh(re: https://github.com/TierNolan/bips/blob/cpkv/bip-cprkv.mediawiki )01:50
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JackHbip68 merged08:28
JackH!!!!!!!08:28
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JackHlol08:29
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maakupolicy-only08:39
wumpuswell it's a first step08:40
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maakujust clarifying for people who haven't been following so closely08:54
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tromphttp://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/02/12/chinas-role-in-bitcoin-how-cultural-differences-are-affecting-the-technologys-progress13:40
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r0ach"But Lee says about these questions of decentralization versus scale, “this kind of stuff, the Chinese people don’t care about. It’s not in the vocabulary. Chinese people don’t grow up thinking about democracy and decentralization and individual freedom and liberty.”"13:56
r0achahahahahaha13:56
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maakur0ach: what's funny?14:31
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tromphis quote from the forbes article14:46
r0achit is the way the concept of face in China means it's ok to screw over anyone for personal gain except immediate family members, so you have a constant state of art of war vs everyone with deceit everywhere, then occasionally something is said with more honesty than the west14:50
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maakur0ach: cultural and historical differences. maybe it just shouldn't be surprising that some parts of the world don't treat democracy as an applause light?15:37
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Luke-Jrmaaku: +1 for non-demoncracy, but lying is a problem18:33
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MRL-Relay[shen] So I guess this attack I posted yesterday was "debunked" https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ShenNoether/Deanon/master/sdcDeAnon.txt20:03
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MRL-Relay[shen] \end{sarcasm}20:06
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dEBRUYNEnice one shen :)20:14
MRL-Relay[shen] thx - I wasn't going to go through the trouble of actually doing it, but since they were like, oh it's just a troll, no bounty20:15
MRL-Relay[shen] ...20:15
dEBRUYNEI am wondering if they will pay out the bounty to you20:18
pigeonsdebunking reality is a bad sign20:19
MRL-Relay[shen] dEBRUYNE, we shall see, but based on their initial reaction, I would say no - also there are no reputations who would care behind the project, so no one to lose face by not paying out20:20
dEBRUYNEYeah fair point20:20
dEBRUYNEalts are easily replaced as well20:21
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CrazyTruthYakDDSSDC in general has a very annoying group of users/owners20:28
CrazyTruthYakDDSi have watched them languish for over a year20:28
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brg444https://21.co/learn/21-lib-channels/#the-21-payment-channels-client-library21:10
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TaekI realized an important advantage to 'edge' mining, or 'transaction' mining, and I'm not sure that it's been vocalized before. I didn't grok it until today23:21
TaekIn today's mining environment, we don't get to choose who does the mining23:21
Taekminers can be selective about transactions23:22
Taekbut, if there is mining happening at the transaction level, the person writing the transaction can pay a specialist to do the mining23:22
Taekand, if their transaction is 'undesirable' for whatever reason, would normally be ignored, they can pay a premium to a miner who is not selective23:22
Taekbecause transaction-writers are now choosing who they pay to do the mining, decentralization is improved23:23
Taekin particular, you gain a trust-agility that doesn't exist in the current Bitcoin system23:23
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