2016-02-17.log

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PsychoticBoy;;seen theymos05:55
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NewLibertyjtremback: 'honest' is easier than 'honest about important data'09:12
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bsm1175321Don't trust, verify.09:15
tromptrust, but verify09:16
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bsm1175321My version was on the t-shirt swag from Scaling Bitcoin HK.  I rather like it better.  ;-)09:23
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maakutromp: ugh, "trust, but verify" is backwards09:51
maakuthere's a reason the scaling bitcoin shirts were phrased the way they were :)09:51
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trompi know:) but it's a popular idiom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify09:52
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pistdovhttp://www.dailydot.com/politics/dogecoin-moolah-alex-green-ryan-kennedy-rape-accusation/11:10
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Guest33530https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/14517:24
Guest33530Designing Proof of Human-work Puzzles for Cryptocurrency and Beyond17:24
bsm1175321Human miners!?!?!  What an awful idea!17:30
r0achthe first time I saw it mentioned with things like huntercoin, new forms of slavery immediately came to mind17:31
adlaiproof-of-go, while it lasts ( http://qntra.net/2016/02/markets-favoring-man-over-machine-in-upcoming-go-match/ )17:32
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* adlai notes that mircea's own news site does not use referral addresses to his own betting site; truly, money left on the table17:33
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adlai;;later tell belcher https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/commit/508d65f9a9c3f7ad7c542e11d19148c91b89e943#commitcomment-1616478517:34
gribbleThe operation succeeded.17:34
adlaiproof-of-bet + stake signature agrees on score... so what if alphago starts mining too. who cares.17:35
adlai(no agreement, no reward. tiny bet, tiny reward)17:35
bsm1175321http://fc16.ifca.ai/bitcoin/papers/CDE+16.pdf17:38
instagibbs"Verify, then trust" <-- betta17:38
adlaiplease, for the academically challenged -- what exactly is a 'position' paper?17:39
bsm1175321instagibbs: never trust, always verify.  ;-)17:39
instagibbsyou can trust after verifying ;)17:39
bsm1175321adlai: eh I hadn't noticed that.  That means it contains no results, only blathering and speculation.17:40
adlaiah, thank you for clarifying.17:40
instagibbsnot unlike this channel :)17:40
adlainothing wrong with properly-labelled bullshit17:40
bsm1175321I skimmed it, it doesn't contain anything I didn't already know AFAICT but if someone needs to know why scaling is a problem in a short 16 pages...17:41
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