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PsychoticBoy | ;;seen theymos | 05:55 |
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gribble | theymos was last seen in #bitcoin-wizards 34 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <theymos> Yeah. Though Tor directory authorities face similar problems, and they've done basically OK. | 05:55 |
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NewLiberty | jtremback: 'honest' is easier than 'honest about important data' | 09:12 |
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bsm1175321 | Don't trust, verify. | 09:15 |
tromp | trust, but verify | 09:16 |
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bsm1175321 | My version was on the t-shirt swag from Scaling Bitcoin HK. I rather like it better. ;-) | 09:23 |
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maaku | tromp: ugh, "trust, but verify" is backwards | 09:51 |
maaku | there's a reason the scaling bitcoin shirts were phrased the way they were :) | 09:51 |
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tromp | i know:) but it's a popular idiom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify | 09:52 |
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pistdov | http://www.dailydot.com/politics/dogecoin-moolah-alex-green-ryan-kennedy-rape-accusation/ | 11:10 |
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kanzure | wrong channel | 11:24 |
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Guest33530 | https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/145 | 17:24 |
Guest33530 | Designing Proof of Human-work Puzzles for Cryptocurrency and Beyond | 17:24 |
bsm1175321 | Human miners!?!?! What an awful idea! | 17:30 |
r0ach | the first time I saw it mentioned with things like huntercoin, new forms of slavery immediately came to mind | 17:31 |
adlai | proof-of-go, while it lasts ( http://qntra.net/2016/02/markets-favoring-man-over-machine-in-upcoming-go-match/ ) | 17:32 |
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* adlai notes that mircea's own news site does not use referral addresses to his own betting site; truly, money left on the table | 17:33 | |
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adlai | ;;later tell belcher https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/commit/508d65f9a9c3f7ad7c542e11d19148c91b89e943#commitcomment-16164785 | 17:34 |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | 17:34 |
adlai | proof-of-bet + stake signature agrees on score... so what if alphago starts mining too. who cares. | 17:35 |
adlai | (no agreement, no reward. tiny bet, tiny reward) | 17:35 |
bsm1175321 | http://fc16.ifca.ai/bitcoin/papers/CDE+16.pdf | 17:38 |
instagibbs | "Verify, then trust" <-- betta | 17:38 |
adlai | please, for the academically challenged -- what exactly is a 'position' paper? | 17:39 |
bsm1175321 | instagibbs: never trust, always verify. ;-) | 17:39 |
instagibbs | you can trust after verifying ;) | 17:39 |
bsm1175321 | adlai: eh I hadn't noticed that. That means it contains no results, only blathering and speculation. | 17:40 |
adlai | ah, thank you for clarifying. | 17:40 |
instagibbs | not unlike this channel :) | 17:40 |
adlai | nothing wrong with properly-labelled bullshit | 17:40 |
bsm1175321 | I skimmed it, it doesn't contain anything I didn't already know AFAICT but if someone needs to know why scaling is a problem in a short 16 pages... | 17:41 |
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