2016-03-31.log

--- Log opened Thu Mar 31 00:00:15 2016
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CryptoAiHello all. We are CryptoAi, a machine learning centered systematic hedge fund. We’re currently seeking new partners with expertise in: Trading systems and Feature engineering(custom indicator design). If interested please view our recruitment doc03:23
CryptoAihttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt7VKAI6_jU-yaMJX2A7Bj8JpLN0hhgfmrMrmy1PUHs/edit?usp=sharing03:23
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buZzBEEP BOOP03:28
buZzare you -still- not working CryptoAi ?03:28
buZzyou've been hunting for souls to absord for over a year now?03:28
buZzstill havent found anyone?03:28
CryptoAibuZz: We found a system architect, we're now looking for additional personnel03:32
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fluffyponyCryptoAi: have you considered asking Tay?04:49
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stevenrooseReading the blog post from Cloud Flare where they propose proof of work for Tor browsers, I'm thinking about the idea of a standardised PoW HTTP extension06:16
stevenrooseUsers could use a browser extension, regardless of using Tor or a regular browser and avoid getting CAPTCHA's by adding a PoW to all their HTTP requests06:17
stevenrooseIt would be Hashcash for HTTP06:17
stevenroosesay, HashcashTTP :p06:17
stevenrooseSort of what hashcash.io does, but standardised on application layer level06:18
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jannesOr just include a Lightning transaction in every HTTP header.07:31
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instagibbsyep07:32
instagibbsa dynamic refundable amount even07:32
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maakuTaek what you describe is flex cap08:10
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stevenroosejannes, thats really to much overhead08:18
stevenrooseFor one, you dont want your browser to be your wallet08:18
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stevenroosePlus, how about anonymity if you send transactions along all your browsing requests08:19
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instagibbsstevenroose, probably a basic knowledge fail on my part, but are you required to reveal the source in lightning? Pretty sure onion routing allows you to hide it.08:48
stevenrooseinstagibbs, as far as I know, sender and receiver first communicate in order to agree on payment details08:51
stevenrooseI'm not sure, but I thought they actually exchanged the payment route as well08:51
kanzureoriginal payment detail agreement is out-of-band, of course08:52
instagibbsthought it was just random payment details plus R value, maybe not08:53
instagibbserr H value08:53
instagibbswhatever08:53
kanzuredid we seriously end up with single-letter variable names? that's infuriating.08:53
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maakuinstagibbs: you are correct. onion routing would obscure the source. however lightning network might not be very good for anonymity...09:05
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CryptoAiHello all. We are CryptoAi, a machine learning centered systematic hedge fund. We’re currently seeking new partners with expertise in: Trading systems and Feature engineering(custom indicator design). If interested please view our recruitment doc17:08
CryptoAihttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt7VKAI6_jU-yaMJX2A7Bj8JpLN0hhgfmrMrmy1PUHs/edit?usp=sharing17:08
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nshholographic algorithms by fibonacci gates -- http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~jyc/papers/LAA-journalversion.pdf17:32
nshvia 'The Complexity of Computing Quantities' from Simons Inst. -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wClCkVBns7A17:32
stevenroosekanzure, they are not single letter variable names, they are the characters that are widely used for them in cryptographic literature17:33
kanzurethat's not a good excuse17:34
kanzuremath literature has a lot of crimes against humanity to answer for, including single-letter variable names and dead language variable names17:34
* nsh smiles17:34
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stevenroosekanzure, well, they are almost never actually used as variables, though17:35
nshwhen we rework the entire mathematical canon in agile camelcase literate semver ontologies everything is going to be pretty peachy17:36
kanzurei hate camelcase but even camelcase would be an improvement17:36
nshi'm suggesting that programmers have a lot more to learn about rigour and mutual comprehensibility from mathematicians than vice versa :)17:36
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nsh.wik Gadget (computer science)17:44
yoleaux"In computational complexity theory, a gadget is a subset of a problem instance that simulates the behavior of one of the fundamental units of a different computational problem." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadget_(computer_science)17:44
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nshcombinatoric mathematics has a kind of currency exchange system that's based on the equivalence of short 'script'-based solutions to global property determinations. that should be an interesting thing to think about for folks here maybe i don't know17:48
nshhttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.44.1673&rep=rep1&type=pdf17:49
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rustyhttp://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=576 "BIP9: versionbits in a Nutshell" comments/additions welcome...18:29
gwillenrusty: so when it says 'a year' is the timeout for a version bit -- is that actually measured in realtime or in blocks18:32
rustygwillen: realtime, aka GetMedian18:33
gwillenoh, I just answered my own actual question -- even if it's realtime, it's using block timestamps, not local clocks, of course18:33
gwillenso there's no risk of disagreement18:33
rustyYeah, I didn't want the post buried in minutia.18:33
* gwillen nods18:33
rustyThough, I was pedantic about the bits having semantics as soon as the start date is reached, not at the next period start as bitcoin-core sets them.18:34
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gwillenright, that makes sense.18:36
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bsm1175321(08:35:59 PM) nsh: when we rework the entire mathematical canon in agile camelcase literate semver ontologies everything is going to be pretty peachy19:27
bsm1175321That's going in my quote book.19:27
bsm1175321my own field (physics) is as much to blame.  You all know that sigma is the cross section.  Oh also the areal charge density.  And tau is proper time.  Or the tau meson.  You know, it's all clear.19:28
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bsm1175321I actually have an extensive glossary in my current bitcoin paper, and haven't assumed anything about common notation...this field is to nascent.19:29
bsm1175321What's the right symbol for: global hashrate?  target difficulty?  average inter-node latency?  Number of coins (as a unit)?19:31
bsm1175321Things that must appear in every serious paper in this space...19:31
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