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| nsh | good questions, bsm1175321 | 00:57 |
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| nsh | 'In structural complexity theory, the Berman–Hartmanis conjecture is an unsolved conjecture named after Leonard C. Berman and Juris Hartmanis that states that all NP-complete languages look alike, in the sense that they can be related to each other by polynomial time isomorphisms.[1][2][3][4]' | 01:07 |
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| waxwing | has anyone looked at this at all? https://github.com/brave/ledger/blob/master/documentation/Ledger-Principles.md | 03:00 |
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| waxwing | https://anonize.org/assets/technology.html and paper https://anonize.org/assets/anonize-oak-camera.pdf seem to be the interesting bit | 03:15 |
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| nsh | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aX-0E07Fpg | 06:25 |
| yoleaux | Hash Proof Systems, Old and New - YouTube | 06:25 |
| nsh | [Simons] | 06:25 |
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| kanzure | not sure if april fool post https://ellipticnews.wordpress.com/2016/03/31/ecdlp-can-be-solved-in-24-th-root-time/ | 06:32 |
| * instagibbs imagining how sphere packing would be related to elliptic curves | 06:34 | |
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| kanzure | answer seems to be yes it is a foolpost | 06:56 |
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| kanzure | "AsicBoost - A speedup for bitcoin mining" http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf claims "20% speedup" | 06:58 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/str4d/zcash-pow/blob/master/pow.py | 08:31 |
| kanzure | i believe that's "equihash" like "Asymmetric proof-of-work based on the Generalized Birthday problem" https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/946 | 08:31 |
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| btcdrak | Wizards, discuss: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012598.html | 10:55 |
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| Taek | maaku: I had thought flexcap was just Maxwell's higher difficulty proposal, but I see now that there's a whole category of flexible blocksize proposals. | 12:00 |
| Taek | I don't think that a higher difficulty makes as much sense because that requires spinning up more hashrate, which a miner may not be able to do on short notice. Destroying coins is much easier. | 12:01 |
| kanzure | besides the sidechain whitepaper, what's another paper or two about sidechain-like things? | 12:04 |
| kanzure | also, has someone done an economic/finance-oriented perspective on the topic yet? | 12:05 |
| pigeons | petertodd's tree chains are sidechain-like in a way | 12:06 |
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| pigeons | oh the freimarkets paper has the whole tag thing | 12:09 |
| * nsh nods | 12:10 | |
| kanzure | hrm apparently nobody has mentioned "different monetary policies can be implemented in sidechains" in a paper yet. oops. | 12:11 |
| kanzure | well, besides sidechains.pdf | 12:11 |
| pigeons | http://freico.in/docs/freimarkets-v0.0.1.pdf | 12:11 |
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| pigeons | look in papers about atomic cross-chain swaps too? | 12:13 |
| kanzure | oh that might work | 12:14 |
| kanzure | hrm which ones? | 12:16 |
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| pigeons | by different monetary policeis you mean like demurrage, interest, different subdisdy emission rates? seems self-evident different chains would have those differences and i dont know any ACCS papers but still come back to freimarkets for a paper exploring that | 12:27 |
| kanzure | "self-evident" yes but not to everyone hehe | 12:28 |
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| proslogion | Can you compress a PCP proof with MAST? | 13:34 |
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| maaku | Taek: you don't have to spin up more hash power, you just wait longer for a block | 15:32 |
| maaku | it's an uninteresting point regardless, adjusting subsidy is preferable for weird incentive reasons | 15:32 |
| maaku | pigeons: those papers share authorship ;) | 15:33 |
| maaku | i don't know anyone else who is thinking about different monetary policies | 15:33 |
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| nsh | this one weird incentive reason will shock you | 15:42 |
| nsh | wait until you see game-theoretical scenario 8!! | 15:42 |
| gwillen | nsh: you might like http://www.oneweirdkerneltrick.com/ | 15:43 |
| nsh | oo, thanks! | 15:43 |
| gwillen | I don't see the actual punchline immediately on the page there, which is "find a separating hyperplane with this one weird kernel trick" | 15:43 |
| nsh | ' When Pennsylvania machine learning practitioners use this trick many are shocked at the results they find. Most just cannot believe that their test set accuracies are real, but the truth is that it is now easy to learn separating hyperplanes with this one weird trick. ' | 15:44 |
| nsh | ehehe | 15:44 |
| gwillen | :D | 15:44 |
| nsh | there's a paper too apparently. 'The Kardashian Kernel' - http://www.oneweirdkerneltrick.com/sigbovik_2012.pdf | 15:45 |
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| gwillen | nsh: yeah, some friends of mine are responsible, sigbovik is an april fools' CS conference at my alma mater | 15:45 |
| gwillen | (this is not from today but some past april fools' day) | 15:46 |
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| nsh | ah, grand :) | 15:50 |
| kanzure | maaku: we should probably coerce someone into writing words down into a pdf about monetary policy possibilities.. with graphs and stuff. | 15:51 |
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| instagibbs | nsh, that site is my favorite | 21:24 |
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| instagibbs | I like cat basis purrsuit and YOLO, You Only Learn Once, where they simply eliminate the regret from the objective | 21:25 |
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