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| mase1 | hello | 01:42 |
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| Taek | hello | 01:42 |
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| mase123 | h | 02:33 |
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| mase123 | whats up | 02:34 |
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| mase123 | i love bitcoin | 02:34 |
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| amiller | mase123, sorry to be a jerk, but we try to keep this channel for technical content only, if you're just striking up conversation stick to #bitcoin or other | 02:35 |
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| mase123 | I am not | 02:37 |
| mase123 | I will not chat again | 02:37 |
| mase123 | in this room | 02:37 |
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| -!- Topic for #bitcoin-wizards: This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja | 06:17 | |
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| Schlorted | hi, no troll seriously -- what is the current status of block size increase? it is still based on if miners switch enough hashing power to classic? | 07:48 |
| instagibbs | Schlorted, try #bitcoin | 07:50 |
| instagibbs | off topic her | 07:50 |
| instagibbs | here | 07:50 |
| Schlorted | ok, sorry bro | 07:50 |
| Schlorted | but if you have an answer or opinion it's not as if the channel is hugely busy feel free to share :) | 07:50 |
| instagibbs | it's off-topic because people read the scrollback here for wizardly topics. No problem | 07:51 |
| fluffypony | Schlorted: please read the channel topic, it indicates what topics are up for discussion here - veering off topic massively decreases the SNR | 07:51 |
| Schlorted | 10-4 nuff said | 07:51 |
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| kanzure | "pre-image length probabilistic payments (PILPP)" "trustless nano-payments (femto, atto?) possible with chains of PILPPs" https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1G4xchDGcO37DJ2lPC_XYyZIUkJc2khnLrCaZXgvDN0U/edit?pref=2&pli=1#slide=id.g85f425098_0_2 | 08:54 |
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| kanzure | "Micropayments for Peer-to-peer currencies" (rafael pass, abhi shelat) https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~shelat/research/2015-07-25-micropayment/ | 09:07 |
| Giszmo | kanzure: nice idea. Assuming that LN will be the prevalent way of doing transactions by the time a satoshi is actually worth cents I can very well see how people would be fine with an x% chance of owning 100/x satoshis but that only helps us if settling LN channels is a very rare thing. Also book keepers will hate PPs :) Gambling right in the books :) | 09:16 |
| kanzure | a sidechain could be used for sub-satoshi payments but they have to stay over there. doesn't require probabilistic payments either. | 09:18 |
| Giszmo | "We have 137 Satoshis and one Schrödinger-Satoshi." | 09:18 |
| kanzure | but it would require cross-chain payment channels (or at least nodes operating on the edges of both network) | 09:18 |
| kanzure | would also require a parameter to be added in LN for destination chain reasons | 09:18 |
| kanzure | http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/010909.html | 09:18 |
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| Giszmo | kanzure: where to discuss this? I guess it's a bit too far off for this channel here. | 09:19 |
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| kanzure | probabilistic payments are on-topic for this channel | 09:21 |
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| instagibbs | cool stuff. I was wondering how they were going to avoid "CUSTODIAN" yelling with the subsatoshi amounts | 09:22 |
| kanzure | i was thinking maybe fidelity-bonding for trust-required sub-satoshi payments, not sure though | 09:24 |
| kanzure | i think the requirement for it to remain "trustless" is that anyone who receives >dust from multiple sub-satoshi payments (or sub-dust payments even) should be able to unilaterally settle on their own. i don't think it's reasonable to expect sub-satoshi settlement so "trustless" there doesn't have much meaning. but multiple payments should sum to a trustless payment somehow. | 09:27 |
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| kanzure | there's probably a way to do that with crypto, something like "add N signatures from the same signer, with these amounts, to produce a signature from that signer for the total amount". that sounds like a crypto thing that probably exists. | 09:29 |
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| kanzure | re: "a crypto thing that probably exists", i forgot about aggregatable signatures oops https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377298.0 | 14:23 |
| nsh | this is basically gmax's proposal for using schnorr aggregation to effect systematic coinjoins | 14:25 |
| nsh | it was picked up in some coin-mag i saw in passing yest | 14:25 |
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| kanzure | er, i also forgot about homomorphic encryption apparently :) | 14:28 |
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| nsh | the problem is making you forget about homomorphic encryption efficiently enough to scale | 14:30 |
| nsh | :) | 14:30 |
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| CryptoAi | We’re currently looking for java developers with experience in algorithmic trading to join our machine learning start-up. For more information on the position please view our recruitment doc | 16:38 |
| CryptoAi | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jt7VKAI6_jU-yaMJX2A7Bj8JpLN0hhgfmrMrmy1PUHs/edit?usp=sharing | 16:38 |
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| bsm117532 | Does anyone here explain Drivechain? I'm daunted by the length of psztorc's post... http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/drivechain/ | 17:23 |
| bsm117532 | Is there a good idea here or not? | 17:24 |
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