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bsm117532Taek, adam3us: what are you guys getting at with pubkey retrieval?  The v parameter is omitted in DER-encoded signatures, but it only has 2 possible values.  So any signature only has two possible pubkeys, derivable from the signature.  So the pubkey *is* generally retrievable from a signature.10:37
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bsm117532I've actually built an authentication system (ab)using this fact...10:39
nsh( <adam3us> an nsa guy twiddled with it enough claim no patent coverage and the resulting more complicated less flexible result was dsa  # the are more cynical reasons for the NSA to make something more complicated and less flexible (and more fragile) other than patent considerations, sadly )10:40
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sipabsm117532: bitcoin message signatures use that too10:46
sipawell, they do include the recovery id parameter10:46
nshTaek, when you say "doomsday stuff" do you mean QC retroactively breaks ECC type scenarios or something more proximate?10:47
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Taeknsh: I do mean ECDSA is broken, either algorithmically or QC, or some other sort of adjustment to Bitcoin's fundamental security assumptions13:00
* nsh nods13:01
nshpubkey hashes are preferable if there is no cost to aggregation. beyond that, it's a nontrivial cost:benefit analysis13:02
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