2016-05-28.log

--- Log opened Sat May 28 00:00:13 2016
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heretolearnis there any way to have access control over rpc for some commands for certain users10:11
bsm117532Wrong channel, try #bitcoin.  But you could put a proxy in front of it.10:12
heretolearn@bsm117532 proxy will help how with access differentiation ? dont get it10:13
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kanzure"Hijacking Bitcoin: Large-scale Network Attacks on Cryptocurrencies" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.07524v1.pdf13:10
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kanzure"Efficient zero knowledge contingent payments in cryptocurrencies without scripts" http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/451.pdf13:24
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kanzurei am not sure why they are concerned about the zkcp refund transaction on top of page 4. wouldn't a different refund transaction be signed if a mutated transaction entered the chain?13:32
kanzureif their assumption is that refund transactions cannot be recreated then i guess they should state that assumption (it's certainly annoying to have to create new refund transactions, sure)13:35
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nshso i already tried this with infosec and it failed because of insufficient interest [largely on the part of me], but -wizards should probably do a monthly paper review discussion14:12
nshor more often if people can be bothered14:12
nshhangouts works pretty well for it14:12
bsm117532I'm in.14:13
nshcool14:16
bsm117532I'm sure kanzure would be too.14:17
* bsm117532 busies himself porting braids to javascript, and C++.14:18
bsm117532Maybe I should finish the draft too...14:18
bsm117532I'm beginning to think *every* coin should adopt this, even with a fixed block time, because it kills the selfish mining attack.14:19
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kanzureugh hangouts... do we have to?15:01
kanzurecan't we just coerce bsm117532 to stop doing in-person paper reviews in nyc15:02
* nsh smiles15:05
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bsm117532Can't we just convince you guys to attend!  ;-)17:26
othesure, gimme a beer and i annoy u weekly form july on -.-17:27
bsm117532We provide free beer and pizza!  ;-)17:28
bsm117532Though, you might be asked to present a paper.  ;-)17:28
otheyeah actually ivan already asked me.17:28
bsm117532It's the price of being a -wizard...17:29
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bsm117532So I've had a few conversations here with people about p2pool and why it's not used more widely.  I just started mining Ethereum this weekend for shits & giggles.  The pool I'm on is very clearly inflating my share numbers.  If this is common practice, anyone moving from a centralized pool to p2pool would see an "apparent" drop in hashrate.17:54
bsm117532Also, I'm pretty disappointed at the appearance of (and success of) pools on Ethereum.  5760 blocks/day isn't enough to prevent centralization, it seems.  It's hashrate is currently equivalent to each miner with a high-end video card earning one block (5 ether) per month.  Equivalently, 173,000 contributors with high-end cards, roughly.17:57
bsm117532My calculations with braids indicate that there is not more than a factor of 10 relative to Ethereum that can be eeked out of a Nakamoto-style consensus algorithm, due to the latency inherent in the size of the Earth, and network topology.17:59
bsm117532By a factor 10 I mean in the number of rewards per day.  Regardless of the reward, this is the variance indicator for a small miner.17:59
bsm117532If I don't get a reward in a day/week/month, I'm not going to bother, as an individual.18:00
mappumbsm117532: where can i read about braids?18:01
bsm117532mappum: Work in progress, but I've uploaded some code here: https://github.com/mcelrath/braidcoin18:03
bsm117532paper will appear "soon" (TM).18:03
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bsm117532Ethereum needs to put out the word, in a very strong way, to not use pools for miners with multiple video cards involved.  Their fantasy that PoS is a thing that exists and they can switch to is damaging the security of their network.18:10
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luke-jrbsm117532: this isn't ##altcoin-dev18:13
bsm117532luke-jr: That's a nice constructive comment you've got there.18:14
luke-jrwould you prefer I just kick you?18:17
bsm117532luke-jr: Go ahead. I'm very clearly discussing -wizard material.  Your anti-ether stance is not useful.18:18
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