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livegnikgmaxwell, re: your comments on BlockchainID on Reddit, have you ever taken the time to look into Sirius' Identifi? If so, any thoughts you'd like to share on it?11:14
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fluffyponyI like Tim Pastoor, he's good people11:20
fluffyponyand Martti is a smart guy11:21
livegnikWhy thank you. :-)11:21
livegnikYou're a nice pony yourself.11:21
livegnikMartti is smart enough to write more code than words.11:21
fluffyponythe biggest problem is that Identifi doesn't have a token to trade on Poloniex, so does it actually exist?11:21
livegnikAnd as you all might know (by probably not knowing me), I rarely come out here to drop a question.11:21
fluffypony:-P11:21
livegnikYou can always sell your privkey. :-)11:22
fluffyponylol11:22
fluffyponypetertodd and I discussed (at the conference in Ei_PSI) doing identity and trust through proofs alone11:23
livegnikUnfortunately, I couldn't make it that Saturday, and missed him on Sunday.11:23
fluffyponyI still think that there's use-cases for *some* identity data to be permanent, although I agree that most of it doesn't need to exist in any sort of global structure11:24
livegnikMostly, identity & reputation comes down to subjective logic, so why use a consensus algo that's aimed at objective logic?11:24
livegnikAlso, most identity & reputation requires TTPs, so what added value does the blockchain provide?11:24
fluffyponyexactly11:25
livegnikA bunch of key-signing suffices in most cases, but Phil Zimmermann doesn't even use PGP. Hence, I'm a fan of Identifi, where the daemon does 'all the hard stuff' for you on the back-end.11:26
@gmaxwelllivegnik: I haven't looked at it.11:26
livegnikBut Sirius' PoC is only for public data. I still believe that, conceptually, the WoT principle could be used as a permission layer.11:26
livegnikSo, instead of flooding all the rows in the DB, you'd want to handle requests for specific cells.11:27
livegnikgmaxwell: Thnx.11:27
livegnikYou could either set permissions on cells / rows / columns for 1st to infinite degree connections, or handle them manually. Whatever tickles your itch.11:27
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livegnikIn case you, or anyone else, is interested, you can find it here: https://github.com/identifi/identifi11:30
livegnikIt's currently being ported to Node.js, but you can find the old C++ PoC (a fork of bitcoind) here: https://github.com/livegnik/identifi11:30
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livegnikI saw BTC Drak saying on Twitter the other day that (t)he(y)'ll be releasing tools to make it easier to verify binaries. I think Identifi could be a nice tool for this, but am curious for the opinion of better-credentialed folks.11:35
livegnik... than myself.11:36
livegnik./rant11:36
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koshiilivegnik: Phil Z doesn't use PGP? For real?12:20
livegnikI haven't had the chance to ask him myself, but this article says so: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/even-the-inventor-of-pgp-doesnt-use-pgp12:21
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kanzure"OpenPiton: An open-source manycore research framework" http://parallel.princeton.edu/papers/openpiton-asplos16.pdf based on opensparc t120:48
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