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01:52 < p3tr> i think the error message is very misleading here:
01:52 < p3tr> user@machine:/lightning$ lncli fundchannel 02565b3920e81816040bf477c135cdbfc2c931a11fc41593bd3217b1eb5a399c6f 10000000
01:52 < p3tr> { "code" : -1, "message" : "sent ERROR to_self_delay 1201 larger than 432" }
01:52 < p3tr> user@machine:/lightning$ lncli fundchannel 02565b3920e81816040bf477c135cdbfc2c931a11fc41593bd3217b1eb5a399c6f 5000000
01:52 < p3tr> { "code" : -1, "message" : "sent ERROR to_self_delay 600 larger than 432" }
01:52 < p3tr> user@machine:/lightning$ lncli fundchannel 02565b3920e81816040bf477c135cdbfc2c931a11fc41593bd3217b1eb5a399c6f 7500000
01:52 < p3tr> { "code" : -1, "message" : "sent ERROR to_self_delay 901 larger than 432" }
01:52 < p3tr> { "tx" : "0200000000010125744673...", "txid" : "ac97847d5a070..." }
01:52 < p3tr> user@machine:/lightning$ lncli fundchannel 02565b3920e81816040bf477c135cdbfc2c931a11fc41593bd3217b1eb5a399c6f 3000000
01:53 < p3tr> it complains about to_self_delay but clearly the problem is the amount of funds i want in the channel... what is going on?
01:59 < p3tr> by the way, great job with the 'status' of a channel, much easier to debug what is going on now
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02:04 < almkglor> @p3tr maybe the 02565b3920e81816040bf477c135cdbfc2c931a11fc41593bd3217b1eb5a399c6f node wants a to_self_delay scaled to the channel size
02:04 < almkglor> while lightningd prefers a fixed to_self_delay max value of 3 days
02:05 < almkglor> or something...?
02:15 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] Saibato opened pull request #1104: [WIP] tor V2/V3 connect support for lightning (master...master) https://git.io/vAoer
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02:58 < rusty> p3tr: thanks!  Glad it worked...  Hmm, yeah, we don't allow more than 3 days timeout.  Perhaps that's too aggressive?
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03:07 < p3tr> rusty: well 3 days seem ok to me, though i fail to understand the relationship between the size of the channel and to_self_delay
03:08 < p3tr> what i mean is that from the error message alone i would have never thought that reducing the channel size would help - it was just something i tried at random and noticed it did have an effect
03:08 < p3tr> if instead the error message read something like "channel size too big, maximum: 5000000" then that would be a lot more helpful :)
03:09 < p3tr> perhaps it could even mention that it is because of to_self_delay but again i fail to understand why there is a relationship at all
03:38 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker closed pull request #1087: Add "make check-python" (flake8 check) (master...check-python) https://git.io/vAVMt
03:50 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] icota opened pull request #1106: Update INSTALL.md with Android instructions (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vAotq
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04:39 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] ZmnSCPxj opened pull request #1107: invoices: Add delexpiredinvoice command. (master...delexpiredinvoice) https://git.io/vAoGa
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05:49 < bitonic-cjp> Can't the RPC handle it when I call decodepay with a bolt11 string with a newline added to it? My application hangs on it.
06:01 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker closed pull request #1102: Configurator cross fix (master...configurator-cross-fix) https://git.io/vArol
06:01 < bitonic-cjp> Apparently, this is the case for *any* string input, including the 'description' input of the 'invoice' command.
06:02 < bitonic-cjp> I'd say that newlines will be pretty common in invoice descriptions.
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06:03 < bitonic-cjp> >>> json.dumps({"arg":"\n"})
06:03 < bitonic-cjp> '{"arg": "\\n"}'
06:04 < bitonic-cjp> So, on the Python RPC side, it seems to do proper JSON escaping.
06:15 < p3tr> bitonic-cjp: btw our channel managed to get into normal state - i take it your node synced?
06:18 < bitonic-cjp> Yes it is synced now.
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10:42 < zib> rompert: Varför har du bytt nick och gömt dig?
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11:15 < rusty> Hmm, lnd has 'maxRemoteDelay = 2016'.  That's two weeks... 
11:31 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #1109: lightningd: close and reopen db across fork for daemonize (master...daemon-haunted-db) https://git.io/vAK4I
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12:26 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #1111: test_lightningd.py: more minor flake8 fixes. (master...unflake8) https://git.io/vAKgf
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13:36 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 58fae47 Rusty Russell: test_lightningd.py: more minor flake8 fixes....
13:41 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] ZmnSCPxj closed pull request #1090: Not pass '-static' to configurator on macOS (master...build_mac) https://git.io/vAV58
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15:09 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master b7ed567 Rusty Russell: lightningd: close and reopen db across fork for daemonize...
15:47 < Bunnyh> I'm seeing defunct processes in ps aux, like this: [lightning_chann] <defunct>
15:47 < Bunnyh> & [lightning_closi] <defunct>
15:48 < Bunnyh> Is that normal? I tried to close a channel, doesn't seem to have happened so far
15:49 < Bunnyh> I closed, wait for an hour at least, then updated to the latest commit and started again
15:52 < rusty> Bunnyh: are you currently connected to the remote peer?
15:53 < Bunnyh> oh, no I'm not
15:54 < Bunnyh> He sent me 25k satoshi on a channel where I had no funds. Shouldn't I be able to close that channel without him being online?
15:55 < Bunnyh> Tried to return them but always got the no route error
15:57 < rusty> Bunnyh: 'close' tries to be nice, and negotiate a mutual close.  Which it can't do if he's offline.
15:58 < rusty> Bunnyh: we should really have a close force option, but for the moment there's only a dev option called 'dev-fail'.  It will drop to chain immediately.
15:59 < rusty> Bunnyh: which means you could be waiting a while for your funds, since they'll be timelocked.
15:59 < Bunnyh> How does that differ from mutual close? It doesn't require timelock?
15:59 < rusty> Bunnyh: yeah, mutual close is a normal tx spend, no timelock.  Hence the preference (it also tends to negotiate lesser fees)
16:01 < rusty> Bunnyh: it'd be nice if close kept track that you're trying to close and just did it whenever they reconnected, rather than timing out.
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16:48 < booyah> wait, this is in C ???
16:48 < booyah> as in C, not C++ ?
16:49 < booyah> wtf. this isn't the early 90's
16:50  * booyah wonders why
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17:16 < rusty> booyah: doc/HACKING.md says "It's in C, to encourage alternate implementations."
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21:15 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] jBarz opened pull request #1113: Print node alias when listing peers (master...alias) https://git.io/vA63B
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