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10:57 < lxer> "CHANNELD_NORMAL:Funding transaction locked. They need our announcement signatures."   <-- ok, how ? 
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11:39 < MarcioJr> Hey people... anyone else having trouble to get routes on the Testnet?
11:39 < MarcioJr> Yesterday I put my node back online and was able to fund a couple of channels, but can't succeed get  a route to pay an invoice (Testnet). Can anyone help me?
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12:18 < mlz> MarcioJr, which nodes are you having channels with and who do you try to pay?
12:23 < MarcioJr> I have funded channels with: erols, lxer, ruphware, lio17nd
12:23 < MarcioJr> and just connected to endurance, awaiting funds confirmation
12:25 < MarcioJr> I'm trying to pay an invoice from Starblocks
12:27 < mlz> if all the nodes you have a channel with don't have a channel with endurance then maybe that's why you can't pay starblocks
12:27 < MarcioJr> i see
12:28 < MarcioJr> I connect to endurance about 2h ago, no confirmations yet.
12:28 < MarcioJr> Can you sugest me another invoices? Can you, maybe, generate one for me?
12:29 < Giant_Cube> I have several open channels, but when I stop and restart my L-node, all of them report as connected: false
12:29 < mlz> Giant_Cube, try to reconnect to those nodes
12:29 < MarcioJr> They are connected...
12:29 < Giant_Cube> mlz: It really has to be done manually?
12:29 < mlz> if connected: false, they're not connected 
12:30 < mlz> and i've been wondering if c-lightning needs to beef up the peer connection issue 
12:30 < MarcioJr> let me double check all of them, one by one.
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12:34 < Giant_Cube> mlz: I did the manual connect thing, and they are still reporting as connected: false
12:35 < MarcioJr> 1. erols: connected: yes,  "CHANNELD_NORMAL:Funding transaction locked. Waiting for their announcement signatures."
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12:36 < MarcioJr> 2. lxer: connected: true,  "CHANNELD_NORMAL:Funding transaction locked. They need our announcement signatures."
12:36 < Giant_Cube> mlz: I think I know...
12:36 < Giant_Cube> usr error :(
12:37 < mlz> Giant_Cube, that other node is offline?
12:37 < MarcioJr> searching...
12:40 < MarcioJr> 3. ruphware: connected: FALSE,  "CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN:Reconnected, and reestablished.", "CHANNELD_NORMAL:Reconnected, and reestablished."
12:40 < MarcioJr> can't understand this status!!!
12:42 < lxer> MarcioJr: interesting, I get the same message, so I dont know how needs to send 'announcement signatures' 
12:43 < MarcioJr> 4. lio17lnd: connected: FALSE, "CHANNELD_NORMAL:Reconnected, and reestablished."
12:44 < lxer> and my connection to Endurance is in state  CLOSINGD_SIGEXCHANGE for some time...
12:44 < MarcioJr> Yes, lxer. I am not sure if the channel is normal, and ready to go or it's missing thos 'annoucement signatures'
12:45 < MarcioJr> But, checking the ruphware's status is even weird in my opinion... I am not sure if the channel is NORMAL ou AWAITING_LOCKIN !
12:46 < Giant_Cube> mlz: I don't think so. I am playing around with mainnet, and trying to connect to three very well connected nodes
12:46 < Giant_Cube> I already established channels with them yesterday, although all three are in the process of being closed down
12:47 < Giant_Cube> And waiting for 100 blocks or so, so I suppose an uncooperative close. Not sure why exactly
12:50 < mlz> Giant_Cube, ah .. those 3 nodes just closed your channels? 
12:51 < Giant_Cube> mlz: Well, yesterday.
12:52 < Giant_Cube> My node was offline for a bit, but I am not sure why the closing happened. Since they were just funded by me, why would they want or try to close them?
12:52 < Giant_Cube> I wonder if my node initiated it for some reason
12:52 < mlz> maybe
12:52 < mlz> one of the reasons i know is when nodes disagree on fees, one node can close the other 
12:53 < mlz> my node has 26 channels, not opened by me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mgp6Nbxmq8/
12:55 < MarcioJr> mlz, are you able to find routes and make payments?
12:56 < mlz> MarcioJr, yes and no
12:56 < MarcioJr> If so, can you share all the nodes details (IP/port) ?
12:57 < mlz> MarcioJr, you can create multi nodes and have them to open channels with each other, that's a basic testing that can help you why sometimes you can't find a route
12:59 < Giant_Cube> MarcioJr: I think it is this: 028501e256154aa4aa513acfc1ca498ae3e9f1a305f5c79ec0918b67ebbc78a796@195.181.243.196:9735
12:59 < Giant_Cube> mlz: correct?
13:01 < mlz> Giant_Cube, im not sure
13:02 < mlz> MarcioJr, here's the LND faucet's node:  0354135bd6e9b8b21f61c814a8cc36c745e6b390d4ecd8e20b31890474b88ff5e9@159.203.125.125
13:02 < mlz> Giant_Cube, that node is offline?
13:03 < mlz> Giant_Cube, oh lol
13:03 < mlz> that's my node 
13:03 < MarcioJr> mlz, I just connect and make the fund tx to this LND faucet.
13:04 < MarcioJr> Giant_cube. Can connect to this node...
13:05 < MarcioJr> Actually, can't fund it
13:05 < mlz> MarcioJr, cool.. now if the segwit miner could do a favor for us :/ it's been like this for two days
13:07 < Giant_Cube> mlz: I just funned a channel with your node - txid = c1610cb5433cc79dfa179495441a2683059de9acf84123e02fcf2e0f84ba9b13
13:07 < Giant_Cube> let's see how it goes
13:08 < mlz> Giant_Cube, yay! yes let's hope the channel won't be closed 
13:08 < mlz> Giant_Cube, also, is your node up to date? my node is LND and not up to date, i will have to update it once the LND beta is out
13:09 < mlz> but this LND version i have was before all the fee issues happened 
13:09 < mlz> and so far it has never crashed
13:11 < Giant_Cube> mlz: I downloaded c-lightning just a few days ago
13:12 < mlz> Giant_Cube, sounds good then 
13:18 < MarcioJr> As they told on the LND slack channel, they had fixed a bug that almost avoid c-lightning nodes to fund LND nodes.
13:19 < mlz> yea     
13:19 < mlz> a good site to push testnet raw txs:  https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/pushtx/
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13:21 < mlz> MarcioJr, ok here's my invoice for 100 sat:  lntb1n1pd2tra7pp5ramd4xxkatzl36j6c90nnzvx9gqufd9mlyc5jmgryecvmxj3763qdq8w3jhxaqcqpxt878tgkqd30py4prxgk68gjym87hhl28zfv3lscg7kej0jxr28m5j34d75ghfk5evphm25p7xd4kfjutxtsu8rlpanhtkkfk96hlvmsqu9kyma
13:22 < mlz> my testnet c-lightning nodes only have channel with each other, not sure if you can pay but let's try 
13:26 < Giant_Cube> mlz: My getinfo command returns: version: v0.5.2-2016-11-21-2269-g249464c 
13:36 < mlz> same with mine 
13:36 < mlz> $ lightningd --version
13:36 < mlz> v0.5.2-2016-11-21-2269-g249464c
13:37 < mlz> but that's testnet
13:48 < MarcioJr> ok, let me try
13:51 < MarcioJr> so far, so good!!!
13:52 < mlz> what?
13:52 < MarcioJr> but... It will be impossible to pay. The value is too small.
13:52 < mlz> that's c-lightning for you
13:52 < MarcioJr>  "Fee 2000 is 2000.000000% of payment 100; max fee requested is 0.500000%"
13:52 < mlz> c-lightning can't pay 1 sat but LND can
13:52 < MarcioJr> Yes... c-lightning.
13:53 < mlz> yea i like both but i like LND more
13:53 < MarcioJr> I just try to pay the invoice you provide me, 100 satoshi.
13:53 < mlz> ok hold on
13:54 < MarcioJr> As I can see, the problem is that somewhere is defined that max fee that would be paid is 0.5% of invoice value.
13:54 < mlz> oh wait i made a mistake
13:54 < mlz> i created the invoice thinking it was sat but its supposed to be in msat, sec
13:54 < MarcioJr> And... for some reason, this transaction will cost 2000 Satoshi - wich sounds absurd to me!
13:55 < mlz> MarcioJr, ok try this:  lntb1u1pd2t9a4pp5gafsnf644ymd3pa095yktpv89wzsqwtz7zhdu256005ap43n05csdqvw3jhxarfdenscqpxan9spe62mwtskt934wh8cvgue3ytxc6vzyrrg6hrwwltqyafrw6p27256hg9sl6p94c4ysvu0u3g80tck2zpfxjjjav2qyracs7spfqq75ushm
13:55 < MarcioJr> ok     
13:56 < mlz> yes c-lightning would punish you if your invoice is too little
13:57 < MarcioJr> Fee still high...  "Fee 2000 is 2.000000% of payment 100000; max fee requested is 0.500000%"
13:58 < MarcioJr> 2000 (which apears to be the total fee for this payment) must be less than 0.5% of invoice value
14:01 < mlz> but does it say "no route"?
14:01 < MarcioJr> no     
14:01 < MarcioJr> routing is just fine!
14:01 < MarcioJr> :-D     
14:02 < MarcioJr> when trying to pay, I receive this:   "Fee 2000 is 2.000000% of payment 100000; max fee requested is 0.500000%"
14:03 < MarcioJr> I just don't know where this maxfee% came from. Can you tell me?
14:05 < mlz> hm not sure
14:18 < MarcioJr> can you please generate another invoice >400000 satoshi?
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14:41 < mlz> yea sorry, sec
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14:47 < mlz> MarcioJr,  lntb4m1pd2tg7wpp5yymuvactkvredv5s6esz684rph4acw2akvrqypckd8xn5g0lag3sdqvw3jhxapqxqeqcqpx0u7pwj3p9w9xaexq3hzyrhlqwwajnuz7da0uyzw4h0q3ctw2w86xdzgmn0fux3nrcxuu67dxa3sr80nwy6rdes6t2j489vdrn2su4mcprwwl9j
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15:03 < Giant_Cube> I have the exact same question: How to see the fee limit higher for a tx
15:03 < Giant_Cube> mlz: do you know?
15:04 < mlz> i don't know, sorry
15:04 < Giant_Cube> cdecker: Do you know?
15:09 < Giant_Cube>     Send payment specified by {bolt11} with optional {msatoshi} (if and only if {bolt11} does not have amount), {description} (required if {bolt11} uses description hash), {riskfactor} (default 1.0), and {maxfeepercent} (default 0.5) the maximum acceptable fee as a percentage (e.g. 0.5 => 0.5%)
15:09 < Giant_Cube> I just can seem to get it to accept my setting without it throwing an error
15:09 < Giant_Cube> my *fee* setting
15:24 < Giant_Cube> Simply, I am not sure how to format the command such that 'pay' doesn't think I am trying to tell it how many msatoshis to send, which is already specified in the invoice. 
15:37 < MarcioJr> I don't know also, Giant_Cube. I'll give it some attemps here. If I find something out, I'll tell you.
15:38 < Giant_Cube> cool
15:38 < Giant_Cube> You having the same issue?
15:39 < MarcioJr> well... kinda. I wasn't able to pay the invoice generated by mlz with low value.
15:40 < MarcioJr> I would like to know how to define this maxfee%
15:42 < MarcioJr> Hey, mlz, you put 400000000 instead of 400000... I think I didn't load that amount in the channel.
15:44 < mlz> MarcioJr, that's in msat
15:44 < MarcioJr> hmmm
15:45 < mlz> MarcioJr, you said:  <MarcioJr> can you please generate another invoice >400000 satoshi
15:45 < mlz> so 400000 sat == 400000000 msat
15:48 < MarcioJr> Yes... I am little confused where the values are in Sat or mSat
15:49 < MarcioJr> Probably I need a 400000 mSat = 400 Satoshi
15:49 < MarcioJr> really... not sure yet!
15:50 < MarcioJr> This message: "Fee 2000 is 2.000000% of payment 100000; max fee requested is 0.500000%"  <--- doesn't tell if it's Sat or mSat
15:52 < MarcioJr> if the invoice is in mSat, this is mSat also. 'Cause the value at the invoice was 100000.
15:52 < MarcioJr> Yes... that's it. My bad. I said >400000 Satoshi, I should say > 400000 mSat instead!
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15:59 < mlz> well everything is in msat for c-lightning, when you do "listpeers", look at the numbers for your fund amounts 
16:00 < Giant_Cube> MarcioJr: pay kjashdfoiuehfoiuhe null null null 2 (sets maxfeepercent to 2.00%)
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16:03 < mlz> MarcioJr, except when you do "fundchannel" then you use sat
16:14 < Giant_Cube> mlz: give me an invoice!!!!!
16:14 < mlz> Giant_Cube, for how much?
16:16 < Giant_Cube> 1000 sats :)
16:18 < mlz> Giant_Cube,  lnbc10u1pd2twg7pp505umgz5v26svvkml0ggr43txuz97fdrq0zk9v9tuv7carnvm5zjqdpgv9ejqer9d4skuer9vssxy7fqga5kzmn5taph2cn9cqzys4wxw0pl5pnsyl94u7lnknyd785ux9devd8s9ql2rewtq2d9lclk3va75p7d839st7uv77y7mnx9xswyddh7glkytqw9wd2epnsqfzwcprpkqf0
16:19 < Giant_Cube> paid!
16:20 < mlz> woha
16:20 < mlz> omg it is 
16:21 < mlz> this is AWESOME!  :D
16:21 < Giant_Cube> :D     
16:22 < mlz> https://paste.ee/p/YxpCb#80oQF2BRcskL2CDioPWQmvWVvLr2rp1p
16:22 < Giant_Cube> :D     
16:23 < Giant_Cube> Demanded.... damn right! :D
16:27 < mlz> lol ok now you make an invoice for me for 1000 sat, let me see if i can send back
16:28 < MarcioJr> nice
16:28 < MarcioJr> I couldn't pay the big value... it failed.
16:28 < MarcioJr> mlz, can you please generate another invoice to me? 400000mSat
16:29 < mlz> LND has a new rule that the other receiver can't pay back unless the amount is over 1% of the total capacity, but my node is from an older commit so im wondering if this rule doesn't apply
16:29 < mlz> MarcioJr, ok sec
16:30 < MarcioJr> ok     
16:31 < mlz> MarcioJr, lntb4u1pd2t0p0pp5g9m7xnxpvhl8ydx04c89a2f0dtd0mjeyrqusf4jn30mcvpkhll9sdq2w3jhxapqxvcqpxaja4hqe5atgcgu90774ruzzgahrs9m8ktql258264xggemtflqn3lv0t5t8y533lghydsde7rg7qa85m8t7p5rgryhue9hnyhr2r9ngpu2m33g
16:36 < MarcioJr> I'm trying now...
16:37 < lxer> is it really 1%? I think I've something like 1000Sat
16:38 < MarcioJr> the maxfee param at the pay comand is defined in percentage.
16:38 < lxer> ah. you're not talking about the reserve
16:39 < MarcioJr> No. About invoice payment.
16:39 < MarcioJr> That's quite interesting, and if the comunity uses it wisely will prevent abuses... And will help to maintain the fees at reasonable values.
16:40 < MarcioJr> On the pay command you decide the maxfee% you're agreeing to pay.
16:40 < lxer> it needs to leave a certain amount (reserve) on a channel in order to pay a invoice
16:41 < MarcioJr> yes, sure. Because the payment actually happens backwards. The funds goes 1st to the final end (payee), then all the way back to the payer.
16:42 < MarcioJr> It means that the network 'finances' the payment, somehow...
16:42 < lxer> I think I'll make something next week to display the logs on a website, so nodes can connect and see what happens on this side of the channel.
16:43 < MarcioJr> Nice, lxer!
16:43 < MarcioJr> mlz, I didn't manage to pay. Got stuck. :-(
16:44 < mlz> MarcioJr, we have problem with segwit txs not being mined, or i could open more channels and that might help to find some routes
16:44 < MarcioJr> I see... do you believe this is the situation, now?
16:45 < MarcioJr> The command getroute went just fine.
16:45 < lxer> give me a invoice
16:45 < MarcioJr> But, when I put the pay command with the correct params, in order to pay the command didn't return. It's stucked for minutes, now.
16:49 < MarcioJr> Here it is, mlz:     lntb200n1pd2tsz7pp5guedh5sfvfexnsctvhvdymkengew7pzwpzrag0486tf5ac4fks9sdpyd4k85grjv4ch2etnwskzqv3s2dshgmmndp5scqpx59wjjl4xhkq2q8c2qekdtu5vd4eyacqgj29z5ssez2xmxze468krquefrf09vzsak55usu5x8hh83zk9sr4eg25ds0cq6ywfj7rakwgp7e6my2
16:50 < MarcioJr> Ops, lxer asked. My bad, I misunderstood.
16:50 < MarcioJr> lxer, the invoice I can't pay is this: lntb4u1pd2t0p0pp5g9m7xnxpvhl8ydx04c89a2f0dtd0mjeyrqusf4jn30mcvpkhll9sdq2w3jhxapqxvcqpxaja4hqe5atgcgu90774ruzzgahrs9m8ktql258264xggemtflqn3lv0t5t8y533lghydsde7rg7qa85m8t7p5rgryhue9hnyhr2r9ngpu2m33g
16:50 < lxer>  "Could not find a route", "data" : { "getroute_tries" : 2, "sendpay_tries" : 1 }
16:50 < lxer> weird.. 
16:51 < MarcioJr> my getroute finishes just fine
16:51 < mlz> hm i get the same weird issue with fees
16:52 < lxer> lntb90p1pd2t06wpp5gh9m8w36v9hrvdpyx7vuups7n5k8l55syf5qcs0gmm0ry4hsqnwqdqgxycrqvpscqpx3pwmf5rvtv957q3g4we6gukuyhnhlvartzxfn4v7vfwrp8wj053yyd9lg8cj3pd4r0sumj3ng03v8e7txgplad2h6w4m3qhcw3dgcesp576pwy
16:52 < mlz> MarcioJr, https://paste.ee/p/DnCrV#x4aV5tNE5bFEn24gU8F6z7OTdtHPG52t
16:53 < MarcioJr> I see, mlz...
16:53 < mlz> MarcioJr, i'm wondering if it's because it can't find the route
16:53 < MarcioJr> So, in order to pay you must set the maxfee% higher on the pay command
16:54 < MarcioJr> I don't think so. Looks like that the route price for this tx is 1000mSat
16:54 < MarcioJr> So you should use: pay <lnXXXXX> null null null 5
16:55 < MarcioJr> This way you define that you agree to pay up to 5% fee on this payment.
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17:15 < Giant_Cube> mlz: lnbc5n1pd2t35rpp5czzslt3ayyg57mxpr4kuzwvud0jglcs6txgju7exsaqcpdwqywtqdp2d4k85gr8d9mx2grdv5sxyctrdvsx67fqd4hkueteyycqpgfw7k5fhx0mugwpnjw9d2uc4pmavx7dsuqwgpd8rtzvcjzkllvnds7qyek0769w55tzpw52437hlukfy24tp3ulq5qusej3tkrljg0ygp7a0j2g
17:20 < mlz> Giant_Cube, was it 1 sat or 0 sat?
17:22 < Giant_Cube> 500     
17:22 < mlz> i think you created a 0 sat invoice 
17:23 < mlz> or half of msat 
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17:24 < mlz> i paid a similar invoice before and his c-lightning node made me pay a fee of 546 satoshis because of routing or something.. but this time because you have a direct channel with me so i paid 0 fee 
17:27 < MarcioJr> mlz, both my attempts to pay your invoices had failed.
17:27 < MarcioJr> The latest one (400000 mSat) was pending at first, but now has failed.
17:27 < MarcioJr> :-(     
17:27 < mlz> oh wow.. the segwit miner just mined my txs
17:28 < mlz> MarcioJr, do you have a channel with LND faucet?
17:28 < MarcioJr> I think so
17:28 < MarcioJr> You gave me the address a few hours ago, right?
17:28 < MarcioJr> Didn't check if the funding was confirmed
17:32 < MarcioJr> Yes, the funding was confirmed. But the channel is not on NORMAL state. Look like its being closed unlaterally. Can't understand why.
17:33 < MarcioJr> I just got 2 confirmations on my channel with endurance!  :-D
17:33 < mlz> Giant_Cube, can you create another invoice with 500000  (that's 500000 msat, meaning 500 sat) 
17:34 < mlz> MarcioJr, that's so odd, i could get my c-lightning nodes to open channels with the faucet
17:35 < mlz> MarcioJr, can you try to pay this:   lntb1u1pd2tj6qpp5vhr052jhzlpvrj0en9t6qpk3vescm2uz2d9577azpm0c7fu8md5qdqsvehhygzdv9exx6t0cqzysh2v8jrhl5zwfy4u5cpf9nezvm4s8qtlv9805zrg7g05d7nww30lkty5s5dzm4xpt6y0h9yhutk23verfnayqdpdks443ehnxvuelrkqpqr2t5r
17:35 < mlz> (100 sats) 
17:35 < MarcioJr> I created, and successfuly funded... but I'm getting it close now
17:36 < MarcioJr> Yes, I'll try
17:37 < MarcioJr> getroute ok.
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17:37 < MarcioJr> trying to pay
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17:39 < MarcioJr> Looks like it won't work again, mlz
17:39 < MarcioJr> The command didn't return
17:40 < MarcioJr> It's stucked.
17:41 < MarcioJr> I can see it as 'pending' on listpayments command
17:43 < MarcioJr> Also, still can't find a route to Starblocks
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17:55 < mlz> MarcioJr, hm do you have a channel with Endurance?
17:57 < mlz> MarcioJr, i got a channel opened with endurance and can pay starblocks thru 2 hops
17:57 < mlz> (this is LND though) 
18:03 < mlz> haha cool.. i just found out c-lightning can do this now:  ~$ lightning-cli connect 03933884aaf1d6b108397e5efe5c86bcf2d8ca8d2f700eda99db9214fc2712b134@endurance.acinq.co:9735
18:06 < mlz> ah.. this was merged two weeks ago: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/1094  :thumbsup: 
18:09 < MarcioJr> nice...  saves a lot of typing !!! haha
18:11 < MarcioJr> Yes, mlz, I do have a channel open to endurance. Pretty normal.
18:12 < mlz> MarcioJr, then you should be able to pay starblocks, no?
18:12 < MarcioJr> unfortunately, no.
18:12 < MarcioJr> No route
18:13 < mlz> MarcioJr, look at the funding txid, how many confirmations do you have?
18:13 < MarcioJr> https://paste.ee/p/UKebX
18:14 < MarcioJr> uhh... only 4 confirmations
18:15 < MarcioJr> I still can't understand why can't I pay your invoices, mlz
18:16 < mlz> MarcioJr, probably you have to wait for 6 confirmations
18:17 < MarcioJr> yes...
18:19 < MarcioJr> Hey, looks like that last invoice you gave me was payed. Can you confirm?
18:22 < mlz> MarcioJr, haha yes!!!
18:23 < mlz> now we're getting somewhere :D
18:24 < MarcioJr> Yeah !!!  :D
18:25 < MarcioJr> It took much longer than I expect, but finished successfully.
18:25 < MarcioJr> Last thing I want to do tonight is to pay Starbucks for a TestCofee...
18:25 < MarcioJr> *Starblocks, haha
18:27 < mlz> MarcioJr, https://paste.ee/p/YR2u9#bbsuFFJcqlppUGQB51ifhcx7yb8uOerV
18:29 < mlz> MarcioJr, so my lnd node has a channel with endurance and i think you could pay because of this, even though your channel with endurance is not quite broadcast 
18:32 < MarcioJr> yes, I think this should happen, also.
18:40 < mlz> MarcioJr, do you have a channel with yalls.org? 
18:43 < MarcioJr> no     
18:43 < MarcioJr> I had to delete yesterday, when I got that weird situation of 'ghost' tc
18:43 < MarcioJr> *tx     
18:44 < MarcioJr> actually, I think I just can't connect to them.
18:44 < MarcioJr> I tryed this morning
18:46 < MarcioJr> Yes... the error I got most often: " Unacceptable channel constraints: minimum HTLC value is too large: 0"
18:47 < MarcioJr> Probably a LND node. not up to date, yet.
18:47 < mlz> MarcioJr, yea i got the same error, Alex needs to update his yalls node, i'll talk to him
18:48 < MarcioJr> Great !!!
18:49 < MarcioJr> I just got the 6th confirmation with endurance. I will give another try
18:50 < MarcioJr> no lucky, yet...
19:00 < mlz> Alex said he's working on something for yalls 
19:04 < mlz> MarcioJr, try this:  lightning-cli connect 0387f3227bda3aeec3d21ce718706daf5a4a652628d75ce56f8d8a6a3451c40061@lnd.bitrefill.com
19:05 < mlz> i just opened a channel to it with my c-lightning node
19:08 < MarcioJr> ok     
19:09 < MarcioJr> I am trying the  "Eclair wallet" for Android. I only open 1 channel with endurance, and did pay the Starblocks!
19:09 < MarcioJr> 6 confirmations...
19:09 < mlz> the Eclair android wallet hasn't worked for a long time 
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19:11 < MarcioJr> Working just fine, now!
19:12 < MarcioJr> Just pay the Starblocks, less than 5 seconds!
19:12 < mlz> oh really
19:12 < mlz> WUT     
19:12 < mlz> :D     
19:13 < MarcioJr> There's another Android app, called just "Testnet". Also working...
19:14 < MarcioJr> Also paying in less than 5 sec
19:25 < MarcioJr> I really miss some good channel.
19:25 < MarcioJr> I can't pay from my app to my c-lightning node.
19:26 < MarcioJr> Nor vice-versa
19:26 < MarcioJr> I can't pay the Starblocks. The app can...
19:29 < mlz> MarcioJr, can you pay Starblocks from your c-lightning node? 
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19:59 < Giant_Cube> mlz: you there?
20:00 < mlz> yea     
20:02 < Giant_Cube> lnbc5u1pd2tmddpp5ulze592dyzum0rz68cds7f6gp7e2wt9qywa560a506mlv7hulslqdp2d4k85gr8d9mx2grdv5sxyctrdvsx67fqd4hkueteyycqpgh700ql5faelf8w42jy49usd3pyg8taw7hlge6a0mc7g2wrd42jfxvn7e0gukelzfkevq5wmelp7tvkk0ev60payjlfav4rkp5wms8tgqddc3et
20:06 < mlz> paid!
20:07 < Giant_Cube> I think it worked.
20:07 < Giant_Cube> I just need to learn how to confirm ;)
20:08 < mlz> what do you mean how to confirm?
20:08 < mlz> it's instant 
20:10 < mlz> Giant_Cube, this is how it looks on my node:  https://paste.ee/p/yzjT8#QWBhQ0kVvO6Bpv6gX8LZR0ZfCySNIR0Q
20:10 < Giant_Cube> Yeah, I meant how to confirm the invoice was paid
20:11 < Giant_Cube> And I see how. PAID!
20:11 < Giant_Cube> And you sent me the 500 msat earlier as well
20:14 < mlz> Giant_Cube, yea i think it was 1 sat that you received, correct??
20:14 < mlz> because now from our channel my balance is 499 sats
20:16 < mlz> and because LND doesn't use msat for fund amounts, so it sent but it couldn't say "500 msat" because it doesn't have it, but i could tell by the missing 1 sat from the balance
20:26 < mlz> Giant_Cube, ok give me an invoice for 499 sats 
20:36 < Giant_Cube> You can keep the money :)
20:37 < mlz> Giant_Cube, i'm afraid when you close the channel your tx will be stuck and i won't get those sats either :P
20:38 < mlz> "capacity": "5000", <<- i think c-lightning considers this amt is dust 
20:39 < mlz> Giant_Cube, let me send back the 499 sat and you try to close your channel to see if it works? 
21:07 < Giant_Cube> mlz     
21:07 < Giant_Cube> lnbc4990n1pd2tlx6pp5hfdrw8agjw9ggtv40ekrscy8mspec9ylxcklm7p5sythljn85cwqdpzg9xycgr5dpjjqmt0dejhjgrsd3jkzum99ccqpg6j7zzlxl3tdtwj7gzsnj5a8w0ac7x0v0uy240xvx34xxgsttrhgq94k9c7cs20tdjpv9e4350uap9dkhpggz4sa229xkwpykqw8jwzsqgx4e98
21:09 < mlz> whoa.. paid!
21:17 < douglas_> may I join the tests? :) 
21:17 < Giant_Cube> douglas: are you on mainnet?
21:17 < douglas_> oh no, sorry, only testnet 
21:17 < douglas_> trying to test some code to fundchannel and pay actually 
21:18 < Giant_Cube> I am running on mainnet exclusively now 
21:18 < Giant_Cube> :)     
21:18 < Giant_Cube> mlz: Yep, all paid!
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21:18 < douglas_> Giant_Cube, soon, this code here only for testnet now sorry.
21:19 < douglas_> going to find other node, tks anyway
21:21 < Giant_Cube> mlz: closed!
21:21 < Giant_Cube> https://blockchain.info/tx/f4e4facca9ebdb7cbd2180f459db01c6efe066983ce83c8c9d22cecb8bca010f
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21:30 < mlz> Giant_Cube, oh cool.. how did you set the fee for this tx?
21:34 < mlz> oh i guess you did:  dev-setfees 1000 1000 1000 right?  
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