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02:41 < bitonic-cjp> I have two channels I tried to close unilaterally, and they are stuck in 'status': ['AWAITING_UNILATERAL:Attempting to reconnect']
02:41 < bitonic-cjp> At least one of them never had its funding tx confirmed though (the funding tx is invalid).
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02:55 < bitonic-cjp> hmm, both 'funding_txid's aren't in the blockchain. Funny.
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06:53 < bitonic-cjp> I managed to trace all my funds, there's just one bogus transaction.
06:54 < bitonic-cjp> I recently opened a new channel, and its funding tx doesn't confirm because one of its inputs is from a non-existing tx.
06:55 < bitonic-cjp> The incorrect TxID is 11da96f85c7bca4be94f9eb7a987dbd5a6a74c5278c04cfec2877b87a03d4852.
06:55 < bitonic-cjp> I believe it should have been 64c13b639391ae273915a2e902624f7c2a2d9ddbed046320a540a9bf2e72aea8.
06:57 < bitonic-cjp> The one I think it should have been (which is the only output with sufficient funds) is the change address of a previous funding tx.
06:58 < bitonic-cjp> I cannot find either txid in the transactions table of the node.
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07:09 < bitonic-cjp> Other weirdness: it used two inputs for the funding tx, while one of them would have been big enough on its own to create the channel. Maybe a quirk from C-Lightning's utxo selection algo?
07:10 < bitonic-cjp> This is becoming too much effort. I'm about to throw away testBTC.
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07:22 < bitonic-cjp> Hmm, the incorrect TxID is also listed as the funding tx of another channel (which is also in a dysfunctional state obviously).
07:26 < bitonic-cjp> ...but it's not in the transactions table. (why????)
07:27 < bitonic-cjp> So maybe it's not so much an incorrect TxID, it's just a tx in the chain that somehow got lost.
07:28 < bitonic-cjp> It never confirmed (for reasons I can't figure out since I don't have the tx itself) and it isn't in the transactions table.
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07:34 < bitonic-cjp> wow I found the old tx in the logs :-)
07:38 < bitonic-cjp> yay for putting raw transaction data in the logs, and yay for me never throwing away log data (this was from March 2018).
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08:01 < ctrlbreak> Guys, how do I get into the slack channel for clightning?
08:02 < ctrlbreak> I need to speak with either cdecker or rusty?
08:03 < bitonic-cjp> So what seems to have happened: the previous channel fund tx never got confirmed because of too low fees. Still, the last channel fund tx used that fund tx's change as input, so it didn't confirm either.
08:04 < bitonic-cjp> I don't know why the previous channel's fund tx got lost from the database. It was in march 2018, so it was an old version anyway.
08:06 < bitonic-cjp> Lesson learned: at least *never accept* a situation where a channel is stuck. Always resolve the situation before creating other channels.
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08:20 < bitonic-cjp> Other lesson learned (TAKE NOTE!): maybe C-Lightning shouldn't throw away data of transactions that are completely spent, if they aren't also confirmed.
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08:52 <@cdecker> bitonic-cjp: we want to keep all transactions we generate in the `transactions` table so we can replay them if necessary. If there is a transaction that doesn't get saved there we should definitely do so
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11:22 < blockstream_bot> [George Vaccaro, Blockstream] @rusty thank you, will do.
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12:49 < ctrlbreak> oh oh... speghettios.
12:49 < ctrlbreak> So, a little while ago, I opened a new channel on my CL node.
12:49 < ctrlbreak> It now has 5 confirmations.  
12:50 < ctrlbreak> listfunds is empty and not showing my change balance?
12:53 < ctrlbreak> dev-listaddrs does indeed have the change address at index 265... and the address has my balance.
12:54 < ctrlbreak> However.... I appear to have two additional keyidx after that one?  I do recall attempting to open 2 additional channels after the first, and they failed, and I THEN remembered, well duh, your other channel needs to confirm on chain first before you can spend the balance :-S
12:55 < ctrlbreak> So... any idea how I can correct this situation where CL thinks I'm broke :-P
12:55 < ctrlbreak> ?
13:00 < ctrlbreak> Hmmm... think I found the issue.  CL let me attempt to open the 2nd channel where I probably wouldn't have been able to?  1st channel was still pending 1st confirmation and would have chewed up all my UTXO.... but it looks like it attempted to anyway?
13:00 < ctrlbreak> "Funding channel: offered, now waiting for accept_channel"
13:01 < ctrlbreak> Anyone know how to... umm.. safely... abort this proposed channel opening such that CL fixes it's accounting and recognizes I have funds?
13:02 < billybigpotatoes> I wish I could help, but I'm quite certain I know less than you. It was nothing short of a miracle that I actually managed to get everything up and running. 
13:03 < ctrlbreak> Hehe... no worries.  All of this is quite complicated at the moment!  
13:04 < billybigpotatoes> Yes it certainly is! Good fun learning though, I like little challenges at the end of the day. 
13:05 < ctrlbreak> You on testnet, mainnet, or both Billy?
13:05 < billybigpotatoes> Mainnet. I've probably got about £5 left in my wallets somewhere, but when I try and withdraw all it tells me insufficient funds. But I'm pretty sure I haven't miscounted. Maybe I have. I don't really understand the listfunds output. 
13:06 < ctrlbreak> ahhh.
13:07 < billybigpotatoes> Glad I've done it all though. Lightning was just the motivation I needed to set up my own bitcoin node at last. 
13:07 < ctrlbreak> hehehe...
13:07 < ctrlbreak> I'll help ya.
13:07 < ctrlbreak> So, you have a balance in your CL wallet you want to withdraw?
13:08 < billybigpotatoes> I'll happily post the listfunds output here if you think you can help. I presume it is safe to do so. God knows I've tried to find where the private keys are. hsm_secret>? what is that....
13:09 < ctrlbreak> also, the listfunds output will show you funds available in the wallet, as well as your balances for any active channels you have open.
13:09 < ctrlbreak> Send me the listfunds output privately so as to not flood the channel.
13:09 < billybigpotatoes> So here is a tiny snippet of my listfunds output - will send it privately sure - I'm a novice on irc too so give me a few moments. 
13:10 < ctrlbreak> no worryes.
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14:15 <@niftynei> this feels like a dumb question but how do you see the manpage entries for the cli commands?
14:15 <@niftynei> like i know where they are, but how do you invoke `man` to display them?
14:25 < ctrlbreak> I don't *think* there are man pages..
14:25 < ctrlbreak> ./lightning-cli help
14:30 < ctrlbreak> Ahhh... resolved my issue from earlier it appears.  My peer with the hung channel state: "Funding channel: offered, now waiting for accept_channel" ??
14:31 < ctrlbreak> Yeah... just calling a CLOSE with their pubkey immediately resolved the accounting issue and my wallet change address and balance is now reflected as confirmed in the LISTFUNDS output.
14:31 < ctrlbreak> (for anyone wondering)
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14:38 < nothingmuch> niftynei: IIRC the ppa package installs manpages for the subcommands which <lightning-cli help cmd> will bring up
14:39 < nothingmuch> niftynei: looking at the code, lightning-cli seems to exec <man lightning-%s>
14:39 < nothingmuch> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/blob/master/cli/lightning-cli.c#L258
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15:12 < molz> interesting, thanks, nothingmuch 
15:13 < molz> man lightning-listfunds
15:14 < molz> SEE ALSO
15:14 < molz>        lightning-newaddr(7), lightning-fundchannel(7), lightning-withdraw(7)
15:15 < molz> but that's it, it's not complete
15:16 < ctrlbreak> wow... thanks for letting me know about that!
15:18 <@niftynei> hmm `man lightning-listfunds` doesn't work for me, i get `No manual entry for lightning-listfunds`
15:18 <@niftynei> seems like a problem on my end tho 
15:25 <@niftynei> ok so you have to run `make install` to get them registered which makes sense
15:26 <@niftynei> (only relevant if you build from source)
15:33 < nothingmuch> yeah i never did make install or installed from ppa, i just remembered cdecker mentioned it in one of his talks
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15:37 < rusty> ctrlbreak: pong...
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15:37 < rusty> niftynei: man -l FTW
15:38 < rusty> niftynei: so, have you fixed our reconnect logic yet? :)
15:40 < rusty> niftynei, cdecker: once Travis is happy with https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/2244 I'll merge and tag the release...
15:51 < jb55> niftynei: I was considering hacks for lightning-cli help to get manpages relative to its location in the case it hasn't been installed yet... might be useful for people building from source locally?
15:53 < jb55> right now `lightning-cli help` assumes they're installed by just calling out to `man lightning-<topic>`
15:53 < jb55> otherwise it falls back to documentation from the api
15:54 <@niftynei> rusty: nope. working on reproducing it atm. :'(
15:55 < rusty> jb55: yea, we could try man -l if man fails?
15:56 < rusty> niftynei: if you run our own test suite it fails on  test_restart_many_payments IIRC...
15:56 <@niftynei> the dataloss reconnect thing? that is very helpful 
15:56  * niftynei chucks lnd install out the window ;)
15:57 <@niftynei> jk
15:57 < molz> lmao ...
15:57 < molz> there's no 'lnd install' :P 
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16:43 < jb55> rusty: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/2245 
16:44 < jb55> if anyone wants to test `lightning-cli help listpeers` etc. it should now show the manpage even if clightning isn't installed
17:35 < rusty> molz: still around?
17:36 < rusty> I think under the circumstances, molz and ctrlbreak should name the release, if they're around
17:37 < molz> hi rusty :) i'm still waiting to buy you a beer 
17:37 < molz> for helping me with my tx last time 
17:42 < rusty> molz: ping?
17:43 < molz> oh sorry sec
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18:44 < ctrlbreak> 11PM here, so I'm calling it a night :-)  Catch you all tomorrow hopefully.
18:47 < rusty> ctrlbreak: 'night, and thanks!
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20:15 -!- niftynei changed the topic of #c-lightning to: Chat about the C-lightning implementation: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/c-lightning  Current Version: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/tag/v0.6.3 ~~UPDATE NOW~~ Logs at http://gnusha.org/c-lightning/
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20:24 < roasbeef> is y
20:25 < roasbeef> is y'all's github irc bot gone also?
20:26 < roasbeef> there's this individual that's gonna port over the now borked github irc bot, can let em know if y'all are interested in it
20:26 < roasbeef> not sure if they're gonna host it tho 
20:28 < rusty> roasbeef: hmm, good q, haven't seen it in a while :(
20:29 < roasbeef> yeh seems the old infra it was based on will be gone at the end of this month https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/
20:29 < roasbeef> > Note: We no longer support GitHub Services as of October 1, 2018, and GitHub Services will stop working on January 31, 2019.
20:35 < rusty> roasbeef: Damn.
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20:40 < roasbeef> someone's making a replacement tho, will get em to point it at #lightning-dev so we can have the stream from the rfc repo in there again 
20:41 < rusty> roasbeef: thanks!
21:00 < rusty> FCK.
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21:15 < jb55> rusty: just notice my git sanity check caught the zip version issue, will 0.6.3 get re-tagged?
21:16 < rusty> jb55: no... that wasn't the only problem with the zip anyway.
21:16 < rusty> (The zip didn't include the submodules, either) 
21:17 < rusty> Which predates 0.6.2
21:17 < jb55> ah yeah that's why I wasn't using those for nixos releases...
21:18 < jb55> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/1625 can close this when fixed
21:43 < rusty> jb55: noted, thanks!
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