--- Log opened Tue Mar 12 00:00:14 2019 00:20 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:12 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:12 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #c-lightning 02:33 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #c-lightning 02:56 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #c-lightning 03:46 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 03:55 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #c-lightning 03:57 -!- khs9ne [~guido@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has joined #c-lightning 04:43 -!- Alterego_ [Alterego12@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/alterego123] has joined #c-lightning 04:43 < Alterego_> Hello, i had lost access to a node, and i need to restore funds, i have the hsm_secret file 04:43 < Alterego_> Can anybody help me? 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Your communities have a few options to choose from. 08:40 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has joined #c-lightning 08:45 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has joined #c-lightning 09:11 -!- khs9ne [~guido@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:13 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #c-lightning 09:16 -!- Amperture [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has joined #c-lightning 09:56 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@host-46-255-84-17.notifications.comune.bologna.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:08 -!- _bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36 -!- jb55 [~jb55@S010660e327dca171.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #c-lightning 12:02 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #c-lightning 13:28 < t0mix> Alterego123, you there? how did you loose access? 14:36 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93.56.72.29] has joined #c-lightning 14:42 < Alterego123> Need help restoring funds with hsm_secret file 14:42 < Alterego123> anybody? 14:43 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #c-lightning 14:44 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46 < t0mix> Alterego123, what did you do? :) 14:47 < Alterego123> Hi @t0mix, i lost access to my node, so i tried to restore it again using the hsm_secret file (i thought that was the only file i needed to backup) 14:47 < Alterego123> Now i'm unable to restore funds, and don't know how to extract the keys or what to do 14:47 < Alterego123> can't close channels etc 14:47 < t0mix> I think you need also sql file. your node died? 14:48 < t0mix> your channels are still active? hsm file is useless when your node is still running. you risk loosing everything. 14:48 < t0mix> do you own physical server? or some VPS? 14:48 < Alterego123> Ubuntu wasn't able to boot anymore, tried to mount the disk and backup from live cd, but it failed unfortunately 14:48 < Alterego123> no it's just a pc i'm using as server 14:49 < Alterego123> i can see channels are still open from 1ml.com 14:49 < t0mix> well if your node is not running, your channels are not active (even if open). which is good (for you). 14:50 < t0mix> what is the problem with booting? maybe it is easier way to recover. 14:51 < t0mix> I assume you didn't delete anything yet. so you still have .lightning directory present on your failed Ubuntu. 14:51 < Alterego123> unfortunately after the failed backup i had to delete the partition 14:52 < Alterego123> what should i do with only hsm_secret? 14:52 < t0mix> you backed up only hsm_secret ? 14:52 < t0mix> not lightningd.sqlite3 ? 14:52 < Alterego123> yeah, the tutorial i read said so :( 14:53 < t0mix> can you link the tutorial? don't worry, I'm not c-lightning expert :) (but I'm sure I could recover your linux.. if you didn't delete it :( ) 14:54 < Alterego123> i did delete it :( 14:55 < Alterego123> this is the tutorial https://medium.com/coinmonks/the-lightning-network-how-to-install-and-hopefully-make-money-6e3058e3fa7c 14:55 < t0mix> ctrlbreak, I know he was asking recently for "key files to ensure having backed up in the event of catastrophic node failures". maybe he can comment =| 14:55 < t0mix> you wrote you deleted the partition 14:56 < Alterego123> yeah i did unfortunately, i thought i had the backup but folders were empty 15:00 < t0mix> hm, tutorial says "never backup lightning.sqlite3". so you might be fine. also there are clear steps described. but I never tried that. you could try to follow the tutorial. 15:01 < t0mix> how many channels did you have open? 15:02 < t0mix> you could speed up the process by contacting other nodes where you have channels open and ask them to close the channel for you. 15:03 < Alterego123> Just two 15:03 < Alterego123> here is my node https://1ml.com/node/023e4f5a9036efbad1f9470e7042d32fbd06c0b183df043af014143461aecd2d84 15:03 < Alterego123> how to do that? i've tried to close channels via c-lightning but failed 15:04 < t0mix> ? tutorial says "Do not connect or fund any channel" during recovery =D how did you try to close the channels? 15:05 < t0mix> ok, one node is "LightningPowerUsers", you can write on Twitter to @pierres_rochard (he owns that one) 15:06 < t0mix> the other is "LightningTo.Me", you can use their contact formular @ https://LightningTo.Me 15:07 < Alterego123> i'll try that right now 15:07 < Alterego123> what then? 15:08 < t0mix> sorry, I gave you wrong twitter handle, it should be @pierre_rochard (the one I gave you is just some scammer) 15:11 < Alterego123> thanks that was really appreciated 15:11 < t0mix> well, then follow the tutorial you posted. only that part where it suggest to "wait up to a few months for the peers to close your old channels" should be instant (if those 2 close it for you). 15:11 < t0mix> well, thank me only if you recover your funds. 15:12 < Alterego123> where can i contact you? i want to send you a tip, even if small, if i'm able to do so 15:13 < t0mix> =D twitter @t0mix 15:14 < Alterego123> followed you! 15:14 < t0mix> ^^ 15:14 < Alterego123> hope you'll hear from me in the next few days :) 15:14 < Alterego123> in the meantime thanks, really appreciate it! 15:14 < Alterego123> Bitcoin FTW! 15:17 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93.56.72.29] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93.56.72.29] has joined #c-lightning 15:25 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 15:25 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:30 < ctrlbreak> Hey gents; also have experience with forensic recovery as well... 15:31 < ctrlbreak> 100% should try and install testdisk / photorec to do some deeeeeep scouring for that lost lightningd.sqlite3 file ;-) 15:34 < ctrlbreak> Err... I mean 'peeps' or 'homies' 15:40 < ctrlbreak> Come to think of it... I should probably actually look at the schema of it. I have NO IDEA if its actually ALL that's needed for channel balance recovery. 15:45 < t0mix> let's see if he manage to recover 15:58 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #c-lightning 15:59 < ctrlbreak> I'm chatting with him privately. Have confirmed that it appears photorec has a file signature for '.sqlite' databases... so... fingers crossed 16:00 < ctrlbreak> I'll have to pull a copy of one of my own lightningd.sqlite3 files to see if I can understand the schema. 16:01 < ctrlbreak> I wondering if there have been significant differences between versions of .sqlite flat files :-S 16:01 < ctrlbreak> hmmm... DHEX TIMEZ! 16:03 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93.56.72.29] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #c-lightning 16:14 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 16:20 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #c-lightning 16:21 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93-35-162-184.ip55.fastwebnet.it] has joined #c-lightning 16:21 < Alterego123> i've contacted @pierre_rochard, he said closing channel could make things worse 16:21 < Alterego123> can anyone confirm? 16:27 -!- Alterego123 [~Alterego1@93-35-162-184.ip55.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 -!- Alterego123 [Alterego12@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/alterego123] has joined #c-lightning 16:29 -!- Alterego123 [Alterego12@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/alterego123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 < ctrlbreak> it might, yes. 16:31 < ctrlbreak> ffs. 16:53 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 17:22 -!- Alterego123 [Alterego12@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/alterego123] has joined #c-lightning 17:33 < molz> ctrlbreak, why would it make it worse? 17:34 < ctrlbreak> Not sure... haven't thought it through to be honest... at the edge of my current knowledge. 17:34 < ctrlbreak> :-( 17:36 < molz> ctrlbreak, i know for lnd that if you lose your channel.db, closing channel doesn't return the fund to the wallet seed, but i thought with c-lightning it's a different case? 17:37 < ctrlbreak> I don't believe it is... 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