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07:03 < lxer> is there a way to list the addresses generated with 'newaddr' 
07:04 < b42> lxer: might be in the output of lightning-cli dev-listaddrs
07:07 < lxer> thnx
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07:33 < lxer> fundchannel was renamed to fundchannel_start ? 
07:34 < b42> i've got both (fundchannel under == plugins ==)
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07:36 < zmnscpxj__> no, fundchannel is still fundchannel
07:36 < zmnscpxj__> if your fundchannel command is gone, a builtin plugin is not getting installed
07:37 < zmnscpxj__> do you use `make install` to install or do you use some other method?
07:37 < lxer> i think I did make install 
07:38 < lxer> "message": "Unknown command 'fundchannel'"  
07:39 < lxer> but I do have a custom plugins folder
07:39 < zmnscpxj__> Then you should have files in /usr/libexec/c-lightning/plugins/
07:39 < zmnscpxj__> or $PREFIX/libexec/c-lightning/plugins if you changed PREFIX
07:41 < zmnscpxj__> we should still be loading the built-in plugins *if* we can find them, their expected install dir is added before custom plugindirs
07:41 < zmnscpxj__> unless you clear the pluginsdir.... hmm
07:42 < zmnscpxj__> Did you --clear-plugins ?
07:43 < lxer> perhaps I did. I have   /home/bitcoin/.lightning/plugins/    and it has only 1 plugin that I made
07:44 < zmnscpxj__> What is your command line? Any config file?
07:44 <@cdecker> Can you share `lightning-cli listconfigs` in a gist / paste? You can censor the alias and that should make it almost anonymous
07:45 < lxer> If I remember correctly, creating a   .lightning/plugins  folder was the way add new plugins, and that is what I did.
07:45 < lxer> but yes, it is empty (except my own plugin).
07:46 < zmnscpxj__> The built-in plugins are always searched first *unless* you do --clear-plugins, if you did not, then does $PREFIX/libexec/c-lightning/plugins/  exist?
07:46 < lxer> I guess, if I remove .lightning/plugins/  , perhaps it will look for the plugins in some other default location?  
07:46 < zmnscpxj__> ....
07:47 < zmnscpxj__> unless you added --clear-plugins, it should search the $PREFIX/libexec/c-lightning/plugins
07:47 < zmnscpxj__> if you did NOT add --clear-plugins, it should be searched
07:47 < zmnscpxj__> do you have a $PREFIX/libexec/c-lightning/plugins directory?
07:47 < zmnscpxj__> or just lightning-cli listconfigs
07:48 < lxer> sec..
07:50 < lxer> https://dpaste.org/Pfbf
07:51 < zmnscpxj__> was this upgraded from a previous version?
07:51 < zmnscpxj__> because it looks like you had a previous installation from before fundchannel was a plugin
07:51 < lxer> /usr/local/bin/../libexec/c-lightning/plugins/fundchannel  exists, but is not loaded.
07:52 < zmnscpxj__> that should not happen
07:52 < zmnscpxj__> is it executable?
07:52 < lxer> y
07:54 < zmnscpxj__> what is `ls /usr/local/libexec/c-lightning/plugins/`?
07:55 < lxer> https://dpaste.org/sOK8#L7
07:57 < lxer> I guess I could pull latest version, and see what happens
07:57 < zmnscpxj__> maybe the plugin died?
07:58 < zmnscpxj__> do you have logs since you installed the latest version / last restart?
07:58 < zmnscpxj__> could try grepping for "plugin-fundchannel"
08:00 < lxer> where are the logs stored again?  I only see the ./lightning/bitcoin/crash.log  , but there is not much in there
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08:01 < zmnscpxj__> do you have logs since you installed the latest version / last restart?
08:01 < zmnscpxj__> could try grepping for "plugin-fundchannel"
08:01 <@cdecker> You can fetch logs through `lightning-cli getlog` (though old entries get pruned)
08:06 < lxer> nothing there. just some funding data, so I guess it used to work. 
08:08 < lxer> ok got it ..
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08:09 < lxer> When I remove the folder /home/bitcoin/.lightning/plugins/ , 'fundchannel' shows up again (after restart).
08:10 < zmnscpxj__> did you try restarting without removing the folder?
08:10 < zmnscpxj__> because it is possible the fundchannel just died for unknown reasons
08:10 < zmnscpxj__> like OOM killer
08:11 < lxer> you're right. 
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08:19 < lxer> it died when I gave it the wrong node ID, and used full (tor) name. 
08:20 < zmnscpxj__> hmmm
08:20 < zmnscpxj__> it should not have died then in any case
08:25 < lxer>  tried again, but now it does not crash. so I have no idea. 
08:25 <@cdecker> Hm, that's weird, can you keep an eye open and open an issue if it happens again?
08:26 < lxer> sure. 
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09:31 < darosior> Wild thought if it ever happens again : maybe lxer SIGINTed it, the fundchannel command was deleted in the plugin's view but not the connect command in lightningd's view (cf discussion with zmnscpxj__ some day ago). Then lightningd errors the command and the plugin doesn't know what it refers to, and die.
09:32 < zmnscpxj__> connect is currently a builtin command, not plugin
09:32 < darosior> First step of fundchannel is to connect
09:32 < zmnscpxj__> hmm
09:32 < darosior> Before fundchannel_start
09:32 < darosior> IIRC we keep a map in libplugin, if the command is deleted we delete it from the map and if we try to get an unknown command from the map : we die
09:33 < darosior> This *might* be something like that
09:33 < zmnscpxj__> that would be a fairly strange bug to trigger.....
09:34 < darosior> Yes doing a ctrl C on `fundchannel` wouldn't be a good idea ^^
09:35 < zmnscpxj__> `fundchannel` "should" still be running even so
09:35 < zmnscpxj__> really need the raw logs here
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12:16 < devrandom> cdecker: ksedgwic and I are around if it's easier to talk about https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/3745 here
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