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01:50 < m-schmoock> cdecker: https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/130  this works better
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14:18 < MrHash> hey if i'd like to estimate the routing fees for paying an invoices, do i have to use the getroute endpoint and calculate the diff from the expected send amount, or are there other options?
14:18 < rusty> MrHash: well, that works...
14:19 < rusty> MrHash: it might be nice for "pay" to have a "testonly" mode where it does everything but send the payment.  THis would cover things like route randomization and premptive splitting, which also effects fees.  cdecker?
14:20 < MrHash> is getroute what the pay procedure uses on the backend?
14:20 < MrHash> or is it variant?
14:22 < MrHash> ah if i used sendpay with the given route then it's predicatable?
14:23 < MrHash> basically i'm trying to estimate the highest possible sending fee
14:24 < rusty> MrHash: it's variable, since pay tries to be clever and split payments over 10,000 sats.  Also, it will retry...
14:24 < MrHash> right
14:24 < rusty> MrHash: and in next version, route will be *much* more random.
14:25 < rusty> Yeah, you can DIY with sendpay, but it's awkward: there's a lot to get right with routehints, for example.
14:25 < rusty> Generally it's best to specify the maxfee to `pay` and let it DTRT.
14:25 < MrHash> so basically better to use maxfeepercent to hard cap the fee?
14:25 < MrHash> :)
14:25 < rusty> I think so.  Then it *will* stop if it can't do it.
14:25 < MrHash> gotcha
14:26 < rusty> (That's generally what users want anyway)
14:26 < MrHash> ok i think i can work with that
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15:06 < MrHash> is MPP the default for pay in 0.9.0 or are there some config options?
15:41 < darosior> MrHash: default
15:41 < MrHash> thx
15:42 < darosior> iirc there is a legacypay command or something to use the old one
15:42 < MrHash> np
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