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00:16 < warren> any idea why they're doing 1001 sats per dust?
00:17 < warren> I'm assuming that's above some threshold in some software
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02:12 < jasan> Hello world! I heard one random person worrying about Flood&Loot and thinking Lightning Network is not safe. What is the current state? Why would people still worry today?
02:15 < jasan> s/would/should/
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04:27 < sebubu> I have reimplemented parts of the routing algorithm of c-lightning. It basically works well. Just sometimes, I get an `WIRE_UNKNOWN_NEXT_PEER` error even though if I manually check the route, the route and the next peer is valid. Does somebody know in which case this error is thrown?
04:29 < sebubu> *Error indicates that the peer is offline. Not really sure if this is the case though
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04:38 < sebubu> Payment of ~$30 got me `WIRE_UNKNOWN_NEXT_PEER`. Payment of $0.25 went through no problem. Does this error indicate amount > maxHTLC or so?
04:40 < sebubu> *Same error happens with the normal `lightning-cli pay` command. So it is independent if my implementation.
04:44 < sebubu> Ok, don't mind. The muun wallet is doing some black magic here.
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05:42 <@cdecker> sebubu: that error is returned also whenever the channel was closed in the meantime, which we may not be aware of because we trigger channel cleanup when we see the funding output being spent on the chain. The `pay` plugin and the logic in `libplugin-pay.c` will mark that channel as unavailable and try to find another route, which explains why
05:42 <@cdecker> sometimes you may see a failure at first, and later a success (becacuse the second payment took a different route, enabled by the smaller amount)
05:56 < vincenzopalazzo> rubikputer: Yesterday I discovered a bug in my mac client, I was not logged in but it push the message here :) Fantastic!
05:56 < vincenzopalazzo> I have my ex password in the log forever :) now I can remember it 
06:05 < vincenzopalazzo> SET PASSWORD fake
06:05 < vincenzopalazzo> here we go bug reproduced :)
06:06 < vincenzopalazzo> Sorry for the fake message
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07:04 < rubikputer> nice!
07:05 < vincenzopalazzo> rubikputer yeah
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08:54 < jasan> Have a look at my crash logs: https://github.com/jsarenik/clightning-dual-crash-logs
09:10 < jasan> Ah, is it safe that I published my crash logs?
10:16 <@niftynei> jasan, see this issue https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4511
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12:08 < Ademan> dumb question, can I prove to a third party that I paid a particular invoice?
12:17 <@niftynei> if you have the preimage, yes
12:17 <@niftynei> the preimage is the proof of payment
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12:26 < vincenzopalazzo> Hey guys, during the running of the test witch version of pyln-test is used? the version in the local system or the version under contrib directory?
13:03 < darosior> vincenzopalazzo: depends on your python path. If you didn't specify it then it's the global (or venv) one
13:05 < vincenzopalazzo> darosior I just run make check .. not reference specified, so I need to update my env, thanks :)
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