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00:06 < darosior> warren: i have a grafana dashboard but nothing to exploit the data yet
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08:39 < fiatjaf> warren, rusty: your wishes were heard: https://twitter.com/fiatjaf/status/1392142202957189120
08:53 <@cdecker> Nice work fiatjaf, that's awesome
08:59 < darosior> Nice
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11:04 < shafire> hi
11:07 < shafire> When will be the elementsproject/lightningd docker image be updated to 0.10?
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11:42 < rubikputer> fiatjaf: that's so cool
11:43 <@cdecker> shafire: I'll update it asap 👍
11:49 < shafire> cdecker: thanks
12:14 < shafire> I still have my stupid question... how do I set the attribute "htlc_minimum_msat" of a channel?
12:14 < shafire> It's neither a startup argument nor a cli fundchannel option
12:15 < shafire> I saw that there are bit fields of which one of them is for htlc_minimum_msat, so do I need the low-level openchannel functionality to be able to set htlc_minimum_msat arg?
12:17 < warren> I've been exploring the feasibility of a c-lightning plugin that offers another far cheaper way to balance your channels with direct peers. I'm hoping people might be interested in collaborating on this. Roughly: Using sendcustommessage, nodes who opt into this protocol negotiate atomic swaps with on-chain BTC. Two chains would be implemented, mainnet and Liquid L-BTC. The latter L-BTC is almost the same code, but on-chain fees are as 0.1 
12:17 < warren> sats/vbyte. If you turn off blinding then a typical transaction fee would be between 26-45 sats.
12:19 < warren> I think if many nodes opt-in to this protocol then it could dramatically improve the ability for a decentralized topology to successfully route payments. It could also be more capital efficient than opening more and larger channels. This has the indirect benefit of limiting the hot wallet risk of 24/7 online private keys.
12:20 < warren> I have the interest of a few large LN service providers. One of them is interested enough to even implement the LND version of this after we've demonstrated it on c-lightning.
12:22 < warren> If people are interesting in chatting about this, there are a few things I'd like your opinions..
12:39 < darosior> warren: you might be interested in Rene Pickhardt's "friend to friend routing"
12:39 < darosior> Don't think he's here but you can find his post on the ML
12:41 < warren> URL?
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23:41 < warren> darosior: I read it and I don't see how this is related at all?
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