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01:57 < lxer> what is usually the size of lightnind.sqlite3. Mine is now 110mb , that seems quite large for just a few channels, or not?
02:04 < jasan> lxer: mine is 116M, running since 2020-09-14, only 7 channels now
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02:13 < lxer> ok thanks. I guess it should be right. 
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03:42 < lxer> CL sometimes crashes/restarts. I have this at the end of crashlog: https://dpaste.org/5Ysd  it seems to happen at each new block. is there a way to check if the database is working/ accessable for the application ?
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04:25 < jasan> lxer: That means something is wrong with the database.
04:26 < jasan> lxer: but "disk I/O error" seems to be pointing to a lower lever
04:26 < jasan> level
04:26 < jasan> lower level
04:34 < lxer> the disk is fine. But this happened after I switched sqlite db to WAL mode. 
04:35 < jasan> lxer: Do you have a non-WAL backup? Can you try that?
04:36 < jasan> (hopefully there were no channel balance changes in the meantime)
04:36 < lxer> no I do not. I do have WAL'ed backups, but I guess that won't help.
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04:37 < jasan> snyke: ^^ any idea?
04:37 < jasan> lxer: What version are you running?
04:38 < jasan> lxer: Did you see https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4181 ?
04:38 < jasan> WAL is mentioned there so I suppose it should work.
04:39 < jasan> lxer: maybe you can ping ZmnSCPxj if you see them.
04:42  * jasan added a comment with relevant lines from this chat to that issue
04:50 < lxer> yes, yes. I was experimenting with this https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/4554 
05:04 < lxer> what this Litestream tool does is basically what they describe in that issue, but less hack-ish, and just using the sqlite API.
05:08 < lxer> The issue with most solutions is that Sqlite locks the file for each write, and then releases again when done. So any COPY or VACUUM solution could cause some problems.
05:24 < lxer> jasan: I don't think adding the conversation to that issue is needed. the link to dpaste will expire soon anyway.
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05:50 <@snyke> Well, that error is indicative of an IO error, so the disk seems not to be fine (dmesg can likely tell you more)
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06:19 < m-schmoock> Hey, how exactly is the msatoshi amount parameter respected within the `getroute` call? Is the routing algo just checking that the requested amount would fit in total 'as if the channel was maximum imbalanced into the correct direction', or is it making some assumptions that a channel may be imbalanced and that the msatoshi amount should fit several times into a channel in order to get a 
06:19 < m-schmoock> successful route?
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06:30 < lxer> snyke, yes, turns out there was some i/o (disk) issue. So, unrelated to C-L. 
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06:32 <@cdecker> m-schmoock: the msatoshi amount is the amount we want to deliver to the destination, so the last hop in the computed route has that exact amount. The closer we get to the source, the more fees are added on top (each hop charging a fee on the total amount they transfer, which includes fees for further downstream fees)
06:33 <@cdecker> The getroute result is specific to the msatoshi amount, and yes, we will exclude channels whose total capacity is smaller than the amount, but if you want to leverage information you may have about the channels (from earlier attempts) you can specify those exclusions as parameters
06:34 <@cdecker> gossipd really does the minimal possible filtering, allowing plugins to leverage any additional information by parametrizing the call
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16:56 < warren> This is one of the only bitcoin-related channels remaining on Freenode.
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19:50 < niftynei> fiatjaf, you found us!
19:50 < fiatjaf> what happened?
19:50 < niftynei> with the IRC channel switch over?
19:50 < fiatjaf> is freenode evil now or something?
19:50 < fiatjaf> yes
19:50 < niftynei> power grab on freenode
19:50 < niftynei> "is freenode evil now or something?" -> yeah
19:51 < fiatjaf> haha I feel this has happened before
19:52 < niftynei> i saw some good twitter threads about the whole thing a few days ago, seems like the new owner decided to start making some changes to how it's run and all the people who supported freenode quit in protest and started libera
20:46 < rusty> niftynei: hmm, chanserv says you're not registered?
20:50 < warren> niftynei: this has actually been a simmering fight for years
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21:19 < Ademan> can I give an alias to my peers?
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23:44 < Ademan> uh so my peers, which I think are all LND through umbrel or start9 embassy, show up as "netaddr": ["127.0.0.1:XXXX
23:44 < Ademan> "]
23:45 < Ademan> these are tor peers, and previously had their onion addresses listed
23:45 < Ademan> are they misconfigured and announcing the wrong address to me, or have I done something, or is this actually just an artifact of how SOCKS works?
23:47 < Ademan> not all of my peers have this going on though...
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