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04:17 < Guest52-urza> so this is from libera
04:18 < vincenzopalazzo> Guest52-urza: Yep
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05:32 < Ademan> join #lnd
05:32 < Ademan> hah, oops
05:33 < jasan> :-)h
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05:34 < vincenzopalazzo> Ademan: Not the correct chat where to mension lnd :-P
05:35 < jasan> Why not?
05:36 < Ademan> vincenzopalazzo: I know you won't believe me but it's for a friend lol
05:36 < jasan> Implementations of the same are always helpful to keep in touch with.
05:37 < Ademan> also very true
05:37  * jasan is not really suggesting anyone to use outlook.com to learn about different e-mail GUI implementations, but why not? ;-)
05:38 < jasan> And lnd is from our world. It is open source.
05:38 < vincenzopalazzo> Just joking 😀 any serius things
05:38 < vincenzopalazzo> nit for outlook.com 🤭
05:38 < jasan> haha
05:39 < jasan> Sorry for bad comparison, but I just wanted to show that even something that contrasts strongly may be useful...
05:41 < vincenzopalazzo> Agree :) But the outlook.com it is too bad :)
05:41 < vincenzopalazzo> e.g: There is two button to reply an email
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07:42 < Ademan> what is the "native" unit of account for lightning transactions? Is it millisatoshis? https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/11-payment-encoding.md#rationale indicates that millisatoshis are the unit of account for the actual HTLCs (which also doesn't make sense to me heh since they'd be denominated in satoshis...)
07:45 < Ademan> also the explanation about the picosatoshis requiring a trailing 0 doesn't make sense to me either... you'd need 9 trailing 0s to make a whole number of millisatoshis... right?
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09:15 < fiatjaf> Ademan: yes, that is legacy
09:15 < fiatjaf> but we're stuck with it for now
09:16 < fiatjaf> it was picobtc I think
09:16 < fiatjaf> Ademan: the unit of account is millisatoshis everywhere, but of course on the chain it's satoshis
09:17 < fiatjaf> also anything below some thousands of satoshis is trimmed out
09:22 < Ademan> fiatjaf: so it sounds like for my own record keeping, millisatoshis is appropriate?
09:22 < Ademan> also what in particular were you referring to as being legacy? the human readable part of the invoice?
09:23 < Ademan> also also "anything below some thousands of satoshis is trimmed out" so we're actually rounding to 10^N whole satoshis, not using fractional satoshis at all in practice?
09:24 < Ademan> I'm trying to figure out what integer unit to use in my backend
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09:53 < darosior> cdecker: what was the rationale for 2b12cac31 ? How comes the sys.stdout (not used in the test, that you had to import) matters?
09:53 < darosior> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/commit/2b12cac31
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10:16 < warren> How do I lookup which incoming channel received an incoming invoice payment?
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11:50 < niftynei> hey all, we're looking to get a release candidate for v0.10.1 out in the next week or so. if you have a PR up, please take a moment to check that it's up to date etc
12:44 < darosior> cdecker: re the above i think it means we actually never ran the test for the past 6 months since pytest captures stdout. https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/4574
12:45 < darosior> niftynei: my libhsmd-related ones can be defered, won't be able to touch it for some time :)
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13:01 < niftynei> darosior, ack
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15:05 < fiatjaf> https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/discussions/2554
15:06 < fiatjaf> can you take a look at this and upvote if you agree? just to help them prioritize what is undoubtly the most important issue in their history
15:07 < darosior> niftynei: release cycles are every two months right? Trying to not make a mistake on my Tor v2 deprecation proposal post to the ML ^^
15:09 < michaelfolkson> fiatjaf: Upvoted
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16:55 < fiatjaf> thank you michaelfolkson 
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23:28 < warren> Mempool is clearing 1 sat/vbyte transactions. I figure using `withdraw` to consolidate all local UTXO's during this low feerate time would save money later. As I understand it all the UTXO's previously associated with public channels are already known associated to the node so consolidation doesn't harm privacy any more right?
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