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00:10 < openoms[m]> Is there a reason for needing to confirm the password when unlocking the encrypted `hsm_secret` ?
01:09 < mschmoock> rusty: seen this? https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4617
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12:01 < openoms> forradalom
12:04 < openoms> ahh, that's revolution in English :)
12:04 < openoms> anyway is there a meeting today? 
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12:34 < lxer> ^ this.  ?
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13:00 < rusty> Hi all!  It's that time again: the dev meeting is at https://meet.jit.si/CLightning-Open-Meeting !
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13:46 < jasan> https://github.com/prusnak/suez
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14:04 < jb55> hmm I should go to more of these... thx guys
14:20 < jb55> a simple noise-based tcp socket with pinned node keys would be my preferred way to connect to a node's rpc. avoid certs altogether. doesn't solve NAT issues but one thing at a time...
14:22 < jasan> jb55: Thank you for joining!
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14:29 < vincenzopalazzo> openoms: yep there is the meeting today :)
14:31 < jb55> also my interpretation of litestream is that it doesn't use the sqlite api to connect to the db, so no issues there
14:32 < jb55> "It runs as a separate background process and continuously copies write-ahead log pages from disk to one or more replicas"
14:32 < jb55> just needs wal enabled...
14:33 < lxer> WAL is automagically enabled when starting litestream
14:33 < jb55> ah nm: "Litestream works by effectively taking over the checkpointing process. It starts a long-running read transaction to prevent any other process from checkpointing and restarting the WAL file"
14:34 < jb55> https://litestream.io/how-it-works/
14:36 < jb55> sounds like that would throw busy errors on clightning side?
14:36 < lxer> it does not 
14:37 < jb55> hmmm
14:37 < lxer> <- alex
14:37 < jb55> lxer: how did you confirm that?
14:38 < jb55> how long have you been running it?
14:38 < lxer> I would see something like 'sqlite blocked' erors in the logs.
14:38 < lxer> 2 months
14:38 < jb55> hmm... 
14:38 < lxer> (not claiming it is perfect. I'm also still learning how it actually works)
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15:24 < fiatjaf> this litestream looks good
15:24 < fiatjaf> I now regret moving my databases to postgres
15:27 < lxer> busy_timeout would still need to be set to avoid issues
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