--- Log opened Thu Oct 28 00:00:16 2021 01:40 -!- belcher [~belcher@user/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 02:29 < cdecker[m]> nathanael: definitely agree, the protocol is being built around the idea of enabling payments, which means that we often decide tradeoffs explicitly for that usecase, resulting in a network that is tailored to transferring bitcoins, not data. While the "attach a message to an HTLC" idea was cute (and I may be partially at fault for proposing it) it negatively impacts our ability to make payments if abused, which is why we started down 02:29 < cdecker[m]> the path of onion messages. The idea being that rather than making it more difficult to use LN as a message broker, let's carve out a more lightweight mechanism (no HTLCs) acknowledging the user desire of sending messages and reducing their impact on our primary goal. 02:40 < nathanael> cdecker[m]: thx for sharing your thoughts - btw. did you receive my email about the keysend problem? 02:42 < nathanael> (np if you didn't find the time to look into it, just wanted to make sure you got it) 02:44 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.36.59] has joined #c-lightning 02:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.36.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:02 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.36.59] has joined #c-lightning 03:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.36.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:33 < cdecker[m]> Yep, got your mail, but currently a bit under the weather and mails are stacking up 😓 03:42 < nathanael> cdecker[m]: np - good to know it reached you 05:31 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 05:32 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Client Quit] 07:28 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2603-8080-1540-002d-3400-d181-a553-020d.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #c-lightning 08:22 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #c-lightning 09:17 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:25 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #c-lightning 09:29 < vincenzopalazzo> nathanael: A fist draft solution to try to solve your problem I think https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/308 09:47 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:47 -!- sgiath [~sgiath@mail.sgiath.dev] has quit [] 09:51 < nathanael> vincenzopalazzo: cool - i will apply it and see next time what happens after a restart/update to the master branch 09:54 < vincenzopalazzo> nathanael: Cool, tomorrow I will make a check also on my node, lets see what happens with this update 09:54 < nathanael> +1 10:20 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #c-lightning 11:05 -!- niftynei__ [~niftynei@2603-8080-1408-3b48-14ac-5f26-e4d8-6a02.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30 -!- jespada [~jespada@181.28.253.200] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 16:52 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.49.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.49.95] has joined #c-lightning 20:10 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-43-117-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-43-117-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has joined #c-lightning 20:20 -!- rusty [~rusty@118.210.49.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30 -!- dergoegge [sid453889@lymington.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:33 -!- dergoegge [sid453889@id-453889.lymington.irccloud.com] has joined #c-lightning 22:33 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:56 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 23:39 < nathanael> vincenzopalazzo: the fix for the summary plugin didn't work for me. also there is an indentation error: https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/308/files#diff-82f56300acf22eeb5b19b00b72f8dec756c129ed23fcdbe8f48a11b25b385b73R241 23:39 < nathanael> 3 spaces vs 4 spaces 23:40 < vincenzopalazzo> Ah this is very bad, my emacs has some missing config with python I think 23:40 < nathanael> deleting the db file of course worked again :) 23:40 < vincenzopalazzo> I will check now and make a test on my node 23:40 < nathanael> thx for your efforts 23:41 < vincenzopalazzo> I think that the there is some error during the opening db, I would like to catch why 23:41 < nathanael> i got the same error you mention on github again (after adding some spaces ;)) 23:44 < vincenzopalazzo> nathanael: Any log error in c-lightning log? I added a line to print some if an error will happen --- Log closed Fri Oct 29 00:00:17 2021