--- Log opened Mon Dec 13 00:00:59 2021
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01:07 < plant-boy[m]> If I wanted to move my c-lightning node to an other machine, is there a way to do that (and how)? Specifically, without changing my node key or closing my channels?
01:16 < cdecker[m]> Yes, it's a bit tricky, because you never want to start the old copy once you started the new one, but absolutely doable. 1) stop the old node, 2) rename the `.lightning` directory so you can't accidentally restart the old node (maybe verify that starting will create a new node), 3) copy the renamed `.lightning` to new host in the place where you'll be running from, and 4) point lightningd to the copied directory and start it.
01:16 < cdecker[m]> I'd also delete any copy remaining on the old host for safety (starting that one may lead to loss of funds). While you're at it, make a backup of `hsm_secret` files in the directory (those are static and safe to copy)
01:21 < plant-boy[m]> Ok, that actually sounds easy enough. I guess the risk of loss of funds is because the new node my progress the state of the channels, and so the old would have a updated view of those channels. Hence could be subject to penalty transactions, right?
01:21 < plant-boy[m]> my progress = might progress
01:22 < cdecker[m]> Exactly 👍
01:24 < plant-boy[m]> Thanks for the explanation!
01:27 < cdecker[m]> Anytime 
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02:59 < jasan> Meeting tonight at 19:00 UTC (10 hours from now).
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06:51 < michaelfolkson> Transcripts from previous meetings are here: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/wiki/Biweekly-developer-calls
07:02 < vincenzopalazzo> michaelfolkson: thanks this is amazing
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10:59 < rusty> Hi Everyone!  Our bi-weekly open development meeting is starting  at https://meet.jit.si/CLightning-Open-Meeting!
11:06 < mschmoock> sorry I need to pass today
11:06 < mschmoock> merged DNS and working on IP discovery ;)
11:07 < cdecker[m]> No problem, see you next time ^^
12:03 < valwal> cdecker: re: keysend bLIP -- would love to get your input on [this convo with tbast](https://github.com/lightning/blips/pull/5#discussion_r766451691) . 
12:03 < valwal> i think we discussed a few months ago that payment secrets don't make much sense with keysend, which is understandable but not sure how strongly you feel about it? 
12:05 < valwal> cdecker[m]
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