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14:11 < jb55> I was thinking about doing rpc over onion then I realized there's already a plugin by cdecker[m] that does this (commando). nice. 
14:11 < jb55> might be an interesting way to control a node on mobile instead of having to run spark+wireguard ...
14:12 < vincenzopalazzo> jb55: rusty are working on spark to connect the node throght web socket and command it by talking lightning network protocol + command plugin
14:13 < vincenzopalazzo> I think it is on the way :)
14:13 < jb55> how crazy would it be to have an rpc spec that worked over onion + across nodes and implementations ... hmm
14:15 < jb55> vincenzopalazzo: nice
14:16 < jb55> I was just thinking if I had commando + a mobile lightning node that knew how to talk to my clightning node over lightning, then I wouldn't need to run spark.
14:17 < jb55> spark is kind of awkward on mobile and it would be nice to have something native. zeus never seems to work for me even over wireguard+spark =/
14:18 < vincenzopalazzo> jb55: yes, basically you should be have only a library able to speak lightning protocol, and send onion message to your main node and with the main node control the node with commando
14:19 < jb55> yeah and I don't even need a full lightning node. just something dumb that can connect and send onion messages
14:19 < jb55> afaict...
14:20 < vincenzopalazzo> jb55: I'm not a mobile user with lightning, but when rusty start to implement bolt12 in javascript, I start to take this idea in a modern language like dart https://github.com/dart-lightning and implementing a cross compiled app in flutter that speak ln protocol
14:21 < vincenzopalazzo> not much time (case my university) to start to implementing a dummy ln node with dart, for now only idea
14:22 < jb55> maybe I'll take a stab at ldk and try to get something workin on ios... ldk might even be overkill for this so we'll see
14:24 < vincenzopalazzo> I think yes, but could be a good side project and I would be happy to code a little bit here :)
14:25 < vincenzopalazzo> have a dummy node with dart give you the possibility node to embedded you ln implementiation inside the IOS app, but you a lightning node like a http request in the dart code
14:25 < vincenzopalazzo> and this sound exiting to me
14:26 < jb55> yeah I think it's the ideal solution for people running lightning nodes without having to run other infrastructure
14:27 < jb55> maybe if it takes off it could be spec'd out and other nodes could implement it as well
14:30 < vincenzopalazzo> yep, could be cool. Eclair has some implementation that could be this "lite" client with kotlin native, but here is missing all the ws stuff and commando plugin
14:30 < jb55> well we don't even need ws right
14:31 < vincenzopalazzo> Right, missed this point :)
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