--- Day changed Tue Jun 07 2016 00:23 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23 -!- coins123_ [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has joined #joinmarket 00:30 -!- coins123_ [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has quit [] 00:56 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:57 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has joined #joinmarket 01:16 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@89.10.138.150] has quit [Quit: lnostdal] 01:18 -!- RedEmerald [~RedEmeral@c-73-231-129-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:33 -!- Einherjer [~einherjer@69.64.40.177] has joined #joinmarket 01:39 -!- RedEmerald [~RedEmeral@c-73-231-129-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #joinmarket 02:16 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 02:47 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@90.210.173.173] has joined #joinmarket 03:02 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 03:10 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 03:13 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:30 -!- King_Rex [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has joined #joinmarket 04:37 -!- molly is now known as moli 07:31 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:55 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has joined #joinmarket 08:48 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #joinmarket 08:48 < grubles> iirc the wallet-tool.py recover does not work on a pruned node, correct? 08:55 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 08:58 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32 < Giszmo> I assume, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinjoin-combining-bitcoin-transactions-to-obfuscate-trails-and-increase-privacy-1465235087 got notice here during my absence? 09:33 < Giszmo> I gave Aaron my usual skepticism plus some points in favor of JM. Guess he will update the article. 09:34 < pigeons> no i dont think that article was discussed 09:35 < Giszmo> Me: "CJ Sudoku is addressed by JM by using same inputs/outputs", Aaron: "I didn't know joinmarket tackled that problem actually" 09:49 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] so, lately i get disconnected when i write stuff 09:49 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] test test 09:49 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] did my last line before these two show up? 09:54 < gmaxwell> oh damn, did he suggest otherwise? I didn't notice that in my review. 09:59 < waxwing> Giszmo: did you mean "by using same output *sizes*"? sudoku works for the non-coinjoin outputs, right. i discussed it a bit here: https://github.com/AdamISZ/JMPrivacyAnalysis/blob/master/tumbler_privacy.md#jmsudoku-coinjoin-sudoku-for-jmtxs 10:00 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:19 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 10:26 -!- veqtrus [~veqtrus@cpe-366758.ip.primehome.com] has joined #joinmarket 10:29 < belcher_> grubles: its -rescan that doesnt work 10:29 < belcher_> it can be made to work, it involves redownloading some of the chain, see the joinmarket wiki where i wrote something useful about it 10:32 < belcher_> sudoku with input sizes could be dealt with by having makers announce their input sizes for takers to match with, as in https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/issues/229 10:34 < grubles> belcher_, i see. thx. 10:45 < waxwing> belcher_: yeah, i never took it too seriously, but on second thoughts, if such a facility existed it might motivate people to deliberately create such utxos. 11:30 < waxwing> i have message channel collection working, and have done primitive tests with 2 irc servers, but the hard part comes next, figuring out a test framework that covers a reasonable range of situations. 11:30 < waxwing> https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket/blob/mc-collection/joinmarket/message_channel.py 11:57 -!- oleole [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has joined #joinmarket 11:58 -!- aladdin [~aladdin2@80-110-73-38.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #joinmarket 11:59 -!- oleole [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has quit [Client Quit] 12:02 -!- mr_burdell [~mr_burdel@unaffiliated/mr-burdell/x-7609603] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04 -!- brand0 [brand0@lol.bxroberts.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:05 -!- mr_burdell [~mr_burdel@unaffiliated/mr-burdell/x-7609603] has joined #joinmarket 12:07 -!- brand0 [brand0@lol.bxroberts.org] has joined #joinmarket 12:12 < OverlordQ> guy keeps joining and asking for the exact same fill amount then never completes it 12:17 -!- aladdin [~aladdin2@80-110-73-38.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:26 -!- megadin [aladdin@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ilgtjehzrzecxiwy] has joined #joinmarket 12:27 < megadin> hi, is there a way to check how many transactions my yield generator was part of? 12:27 -!- faslkdfjkafh34 [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has joined #joinmarket 12:27 -!- faslkdfjkafh34 [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has quit [Client Quit] 12:28 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] megadin: either the .csv file in your logs-folder or use "python wallet-tool [walletfile] history" 12:29 < megadin> ok, ill check that. thanks! 12:29 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] np 12:32 < megadin> ok, it seems there are non transaction 12:32 < megadin> after running it for 12 hours :) 12:35 < megadin> which of the yield generators has the highest change to get taken? 12:35 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] quite possible. You can also find that easier if you check the logfile of your irc-name and use "cat | grep earned" 12:36 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] depends on the takers. If they use defaults, it's a weighted probability by the cost of the yield gens 12:36 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] they could also use an option to choose the cheapest or pick manually 12:37 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] here's the orderbook, you can see there how cheap/expensive you're compared to others: https://joinmarket.me/ob/ 12:38 < megadin> ok 12:39 < megadin> thanks a lot for the infos 12:39 < megadin> i have to tune my settings :) 12:39 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] 12 hours isnt that long though... i've had 12 hour periods with no transactions, i've sometimes seen 3 transactions in one hour 12:40 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] though, dont expect high returns. This is low risk, so the rewards are naturally low as well. Probably cant expect more than 0.5%-1% returns in a whole year 12:40 < megadin> yeah i know 12:42 < megadin> what is cjfee_a and cjfee_r ? 12:43 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] a = absolute fee, r = relative fee. Absolute charges a fixed amount in satoshi, no matter how many coins are going to be joined. Relative is a percentage of the amount to be joined by the taker of the offer 12:44 < megadin> ok, and which one has priotrity? 12:44 < megadin> or what decides if the absolute or the relative fee is used? 12:45 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] the taker decides which offer of yours he chooses to fill. You're using yieldgen-basic i guess? It's been a while since i used that 12:45 < megadin> yes 12:45 < megadin> which one do you use? 12:45 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] probably might wanna look at the oscillator, it auto-tunes the fees by the number of joins you get in a certain period 12:46 < megadin> ok 12:51 < raedah> what is this hostname syntax that cyberguerrilla shows? username@CgAn-818.nmt.nag29j.IP 12:52 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato_] i assumed its a pseudonym which maps to your IP adress? Cause it's the same suffix if you join from the same IP 13:14 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24 < megadin> isnt there the possibility that someone with lots of funds and little demand for profit dominates the orderbook, by running several generators at once? 13:31 < pigeons> yes 13:32 < pigeons> try to join with 5 several other parties, and hopefully one of them isn't him 13:34 < grubles> ok i'm going to give this a shot: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/issues/431#issuecomment-190683145 13:34 < raedah> tips for maintaining open source projects, https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/the-art-of-closing/ 13:39 < veqtrus> megadin: yield-generator-basic can now be configured from terminal. python yield-generator-basic.py -h for more info 13:41 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:41 < megadin> ok thanks 13:42 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has joined #joinmarket 13:47 -!- asdf34rsdf [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has joined #joinmarket 13:54 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has joined #joinmarket 13:55 < megadin> how safe is it to use the latest from develop branch? 14:00 -!- asdf34rsdf [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00 -!- asfd342234 [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has joined #joinmarket 14:01 -!- asfd342234 [506e4926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.73.38] has quit [Client Quit] 14:01 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:02 < veqtrus> the latest yieldgen? 14:03 < pigeons> seems fine but i'm not taking responsibility :) 14:27 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has joined #joinmarket 14:43 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 14:56 < fluffypony> waxwing haaaai 15:23 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 15:26 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:26 -!- veqtrus [~veqtrus@cpe-366758.ip.primehome.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:45 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@90.210.173.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:14 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 18:17 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 19:04 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:26 < JM-IRCRelay> [wifpaJTR] Anyone else getting spammed by Buvoruzes? 19:27 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has joined #joinmarket 20:08 -!- Cory [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:37 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 20:41 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:41 -!- Cory [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #joinmarket 20:43 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 21:51 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 21:53 -!- molly [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:07 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:08 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has joined #joinmarket 22:19 -!- King_Rex [~King_Rex@unaffiliated/king-rex/x-3258444] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:57 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:00 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has joined #joinmarket