--- Day changed Tue Jul 19 2016
01:14 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
01:15 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
04:24 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
04:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [player2] hello
05:08 < waxwing> consider !auth IUP B(tencpubkey) U P2 s e
05:08 < waxwing> IUP = input utxo pubkey is supposed to be one of the input utxo pubkeys so as to provide MITM protection and B() is a bitcoin sig with that pubkey
05:09 < waxwing> while P2 s e , combined with a "P" corresponding to P2 is supposed to provide the rate-limiting/anti-snooping effect of the Podle commitment (the H(P2) having been provided as commitment in !fill)
05:10 < waxwing> now, if the IUP = P for that commitment, no problem. but if we want people to be able to use a different utxo and pubkey for the podle commitment (i.e. not part of the transaction), then we have to add the P realistically to the message
05:11 < waxwing> so !auth IUP B(tencpubkey) U P P2 s e which adds another field
05:11 < waxwing> because you cant deduce a pubkey from a utxo alone
05:11 < waxwing> well, i guess there's no way around it
06:28 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
07:31 -!- Cory [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
07:31 -!- BonyM [~BonyM-I@ua-83-227-211-4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
07:31 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pembnhmtevagqsfy] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
07:31 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
07:32 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Excess Flood]
07:32 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined #joinmarket
--- Log closed Tue Jul 19 07:32:41 2016
--- Log opened Tue Jul 19 07:33:36 2016
07:33 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined #joinmarket
07:33 -!- Irssi: #joinmarket: Total of 53 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 51 normal]
07:33 -!- iinaj [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fespnkfswklskmcr] has joined #joinmarket
07:33 -!- BonyM [~BonyM-I@ua-83-227-211-4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #joinmarket
07:34 -!- zmanian__ [sid113594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wcyrstgerdmymtrp] has joined #joinmarket
07:34 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-csjodsspivzyrwkg] has joined #joinmarket
07:34 -!- Cory [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #joinmarket
07:36 < waxwing> belcher_: in 0.13 rc: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d6bb231a9fa902b5d7a719f8cbcba34c6a7a57cf#diff-ef76fd6674f07db88c3422fdbf0bcf9fR160
07:36 < waxwing> mine to an address 'generateaddress'
07:39 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
07:41 < waxwing> or generatetoaddress even
07:44 -!- Irssi: Join to #joinmarket was synced in 712 secs
08:43 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@196-215-135-130.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #joinmarket
08:43 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@196-215-135-130.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Changing host]
08:43 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@unaffiliated/heysteve] has joined #joinmarket
08:50 < belcher_> waxwing: pong
08:55 < belcher_> bbl
09:16 -!- jm_user [jclofk@92.222.41.125] has joined #joinmarket
11:13 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend]  hey guys new tumber.py user, having trouble with the script crashing, is anyone able to run this consistently without it crashing, or is it just not quite there yet?
11:13 -!- fqtw_ [~me@xd932504d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket
11:13 < pigeons> pastebin what it says when it crashes
11:14 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] sure, I can do that, but can someone respond to my question?
11:14 < pigeons> no
11:14 < pigeons> you need to provide information to answer your question
11:14 -!- fqtw [~me@x5d806c67.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:15 < pigeons> yes you can run it consistently without crashing
11:15 < pigeons> anytime you get a crash anywhere you need to tell people the error if you want any help
11:28 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] https://paste.ee/p/kh9KI
11:37 < pigeons> oh you are using blockr. Could have something to do with them.
11:39 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] what should i be using?
11:39 < pigeons> I would use a local bitcoin core
11:40 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] i'd love to but not enough disk space on my SSD
11:40 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] and my connection is too slow to keep up with the blockchain
11:40 < pigeons> ok. we'll see if someone notices the problem. My guess is some temporary issue with blockr
11:42 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] i've also noticed after trying to run the tumbler 3 times today is that the transaction time estimate is way off, it estimates 2 hours and takes 10 and then crashes. same issue you think?
11:43 < pigeons> it can be off depending on how long confirmations are taking
11:45 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] ok thanks for your analysis. so generally speaking, are there people having luck running this reliably with blockr, or is bitcoin core really more or less a requirement to get stability
11:46 < pigeons> It's generally reliable, but with blockr, I don't know. As you know many people run joinmarket to add a little privacy and that is in conflict with telling a 3rd party your transactions, so I expect maybe less people use blockr but I don't know.
11:47 < pigeons> I understand your point about needing the resources to run core
11:47 < pigeons> i think someone well will have more info regarding blockr
11:49 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] ok, understood
11:50 < waxwing> eurosend yeah from the log blockr is just not sending back the utxo data that you need. not sure what determines how reliable it is, but that's what happened there.
11:52 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] hi waxwing, howz it going? nice to see a familiar face. is blockr potentially blocking Tor or VPN ips?
11:53 < waxwing> interesting, not sure. i noted that blockr is accessible over Tor
11:53 < waxwing> not HS, just plain Tor + https
11:53 < waxwing> blockchaininfo's hidden service never responded for me
11:53 < waxwing> as for VPN, don't know 
12:00 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] hmm, well it crashed multiple times in the last 2 days, usually about 5-7 hrs into the process, it's much slower than it's own estimates, it ties up resources while it's running, I tried using both VPN and Tor router connections, no difference essentially. I'm close to giving up trying to use tumbler.py. I don't know what else to try at this point.
12:03 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@142.red-83-47-107.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit []
12:06 < waxwing> always the same error?
12:06 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@142.red-83-47-107.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #joinmarket
12:08 < waxwing> btw not that it's a particularly enticing idea, but you can do it manually; see bullet list in https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/JoinMarket-Docs/blob/master/High-level-design.md#the-tumbler-script for a simple explanation
12:08 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] i guess i should post my logs? just run scrub-log.py?
12:08 < waxwing> i only mention it because you said at one point that you were able to do individual transactions OK
12:08 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] sudo python scrub-log.py logfilename.log ?
12:08 < waxwing> yeah scrub-log.py and send to me or belcher_ is a good idea
12:09 < waxwing> yeah
12:09 < waxwing> i don't think you need sudo do you?
12:09 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] if i just run the scrubber without specifying a log filename will it clean all the log files in the logs directory?
12:10 < waxwing> i don't think so, let me check
12:10 < waxwing> no just one log
12:11 <+JM-IRCRelay> [eurosend] answering your earlier question, yes, i was able to run standard coinjoin sends from the GUI wallet twice no problem.
12:24 < fluffypony> https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcluster-tracks-bitcoin-usage/
12:25 < fluffypony> open source
12:26 < waxwing> github is empty, took a quick look earlier
12:26 < waxwing> i tend to take that journalist a bit less seriously since he claimed joinmarket was used for the shapeshift coins when it wasn't :)
12:27 < fluffypony> lol
12:28 < waxwing> apparently it was perklin(?) and his "forensic team" that worked that out somehow; i'm presuming it's just the one 315btc address that was quoted
12:28 < waxwing> 1LchKFYxkugq3EPMoJJp5cvUyTyPMu1qBR
12:29 < waxwing> article was https://news.bitcoin.com/shapeshift-hack-funds-move/
12:30 < waxwing> ah as usual belcher_ has more patience than me and commented on the article. and of course no correction.
13:44 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
13:46 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:43 -!- fqtw_ is now known as fqtw
16:53 -!- Giszmo1 [~leo@ppp-83-171-187-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
17:02 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-83-171-187-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket
18:18 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x5d806fbb.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket
18:22 -!- fqtw [~me@xd932504d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
18:32 -!- Giszmo1 [~leo@ppp-83-171-184-80.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket
18:33 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-83-171-187-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
19:19 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
19:21 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20:05 -!- dee-vee [~dv@root-core.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
20:13 -!- achow101 [~achow101@pool-108-2-58-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket
20:14 -!- dee-vee [~dv@root-core.org] has joined #joinmarket
20:28 -!- achow101 [~achow101@pool-108-2-58-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:22 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:39 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
22:32 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:48 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket
22:56 -!- fqtw_ is now known as fqtw
23:30 -!- nanasho [~nanasha25@host-188-174-248-58.customer.m-online.net] has joined #joinmarket