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08:51 < belcher_> achow101: dont know how far you've gotten with full-node-over-p2p-bloom-filters, i have some python code for the bitcoin p2p network which might save you time at least
08:56 < achow101> belcher_: Sure. where can I get it?
10:04 < belcher_> its on another computer which isnt with me right now
10:04 < belcher_> in a few hours ill get it and put it on pastebin or something
10:04 < belcher_> and link here, and/or on github
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13:03 < belcher> achow101 https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/issues/470#issuecomment-234366951
13:03 < belcher> ^ links to my playing around code
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14:49 < achow101> belcher: thanks. I don't think I will use that as I already have something for networking (it uses twisted if that's ok). It's good for reference and the murmur3 is usefule
14:49 < achow101> why aren't transactions stored in the wallet file?
14:50 < belcher> can twisted be integrated into joinmarket without including it everywhere ?
14:50 < belcher> ghtdak once rewrote all of joinmarket with twisted and it apparently worked quite well
14:50 < belcher> achow101 theres no point when using blockr, and with bitcoin core they're already stored in it's wallet.dat
14:53 < achow101> I think it can. I only have it in the networking stuff I added, but I haven't tested it yet.
14:55 < belcher> twister has a main loop function doesnt it, i guess that would run in a new thread you create
14:57 < achow101> I think the loop is created in a separate thread started by twisted when it is first called
14:57 < belcher> got it
14:58 < achow101> the wallet definitely needs some more stuff added though in order to work with bloom filters
14:59 < belcher> what kind of stuff, pubkeys ?
14:59 < belcher> shouldnt be a problem, although you can also find spends by adding the txid to the bloom filter
15:00 < achow101> txids and most recent block hash
15:01 < belcher> yes, so you'd download all the headers first to find block hashes
15:04 < achow101> actually I'm leaving in some of the rpc stuff so it can request some info (bestblockhash, etc.) over RPC and some over p2p
15:06 < belcher> so the user would configure to tunnel rpc as well as p2p
15:06 < achow101> yes
15:07 < achow101> it's all local
15:08 < belcher> anyone know if its been done before? tunnelling rpc over tor to reach your other node
15:08 < belcher> im thinking of tailsjoin users
15:09 < achow101> ssh tunnel over tor with port forwarding?
15:10 < achow101> it would get real confusing real fast
15:10 < belcher> is there any way you can work without using rpc? i know for bestblockhash you can download the headers from p2p
15:10 < achow101> I'll see
15:11 < belcher> the main thing i cant think of it how to do estimatefee
15:12 < belcher> iv looked at what multibit and some other spv wallets do, they also dont have a solution lol
15:14 < belcher> i was thinking aside from this, we add a way to configure your own feerate
15:15 < belcher> some people might want to do other ways anyway, like iv been reading the code for this https://bitcoinfees.github.io/ and its very cool, it uses a monte carlo method to find the market feerate
15:41 < ghtdak> belcher: the twisted implementation did work well.  I used to test with something like 5 or 10 clients in a single process (actually single thread)
15:42 < belcher> i actually wrote a small twisted app soon after you told me that story, its a cool framework :)
15:43 < ghtdak> but, when I looked at the effort to refactor the other joinmarket logic, and without any serious "need", I sorta shelved it
15:43 < belcher> which other logic do you mean?
15:43 < ghtdak> the nice thing about twisted is all the stuff that comes along for free / easy. for example, using the ZMQ stuff for transaction and block delivery over http is a massive improement
15:45 < ghtdak> the application logic.  rewiring the fundamentals was hard but relatively straightforward.  The logic which controls how joinmarket works was, well, basically impenetrable.  
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16:11 < achow101> what is the index cache
16:11 < belcher> records where the wallet is up to in the deterministic bip32 keys
16:13 < achow101> how do you read it
16:13 < belcher> its stored in the wallet object i believe
16:14 < belcher> lower down the function just reads the wallet file and parses it as json
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19:17 < achow101> what are unconfirmfun, confirmfun, timeoutfun, uc_called,  txnotify_fun
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