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00:18 < waxwing> i meant 4/5 in the above of course, not 1/5 (still a completely half baked thought but anyway)
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03:14 < adlai> waxwing: ping
03:14 < waxwing> pong
03:30  * adlai is running tests. got stuck on the setup, tests running now
03:32 < waxwing> adlai: develop or 0.2?
03:32 < adlai> 0.2
03:32 < waxwing> ok cool. broadcast method fails, i know about that
03:32 < waxwing> just haven't had time to go back and fix it. i think i know what it is.
03:33 < waxwing> all the others should pass, except tumbler, i deliberately avoid that (not included in build test) for obvious reasons
03:46 < adlai> i must be missing something obvious. it gave 87 failures, including failing to connect to bitcoind
03:47 < waxwing> adlai: have you copied test/regtest_joinmarket.cfg to joinmarket.cfg?
03:47 < waxwing> hmm i guess really mean to ask, are you following https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Testing or what?
03:52 < adlai> yes
03:53 < adlai> running bitcoind (regtest) manually eliminates one failure
03:54 < waxwing> adlai: while you're figuring it out, to keep things simple do py.test (options) -s test/test_one_particular_test.py
03:54 < waxwing> so that it's not trying to do all of them
03:54 < adlai> thank you
03:54 < waxwing> also, there is something missing from the instructions
03:54 < waxwing> for 0.2.0 you must add the options --nirc=2
03:55 < waxwing> for 2 miniircd servers
03:55 < waxwing> i'll update that now as it's not going away
03:55 < adlai> ok. it seems that i need to manually restart bitcoind each time?
03:55 < waxwing> no it does it for you
03:55 < waxwing> starts and stops
03:56 < waxwing> but as it said on the wiki you may prefer to delete the regtest directory between runs
03:56 < waxwing> i deliberately didn't put that in the startup/shutdown because i was a bit paranoid about deleting bitcoin directories
03:59 < adlai> huh
03:59 < adlai> the miniircd directory is empty, for some odd reason
03:59  * adlai forgot the submodules
04:00 < waxwing> ok. yeah i never fully understood submodules
04:00 < waxwing> is it there when you're on the develop branch?
04:02 < adlai> this is a separate checkout for testing
04:02 < waxwing> ok; well if you understand the issue let me know. every time i tried to read up on it i could only find basic instructions in how to add them, the rest of it seemed rather opaque.
04:05 < adlai> lots of "IOError: Wallet file not found". do i need to create a testing wallet manually?
04:05 < waxwing> shouldn't do, no
04:05 < waxwing> but it's possible i made a screw up , is it in test_wallets?
04:06 < waxwing> which tests are you running right now?
04:09 < waxwing> adlai: ?
04:09 < adlai> all but tumbler has '27 failed, 59 passed'
04:10 < waxwing> so the lot, i see. it occurred to me that that error can happen if you don't have it set to testnet as the network
04:10 < waxwing> but you prob copied the regtest joinmarket.cfg so it's unlikely that
04:10 < adlai> yep
04:10 < waxwing> if you run without -s it gives a nice summary table as you go along, so you can see which test modules had fails
04:10 < waxwing> which ones had fails?
04:15 < waxwing> anyone got 20-50 testnet coins they can spare? mnMxKFCA8i1SRVWwsxQKXRbY9caXSbQ2oZ
04:18 < waxwing> actually the faucet has a fair few at the moment, so anyone who wants to set up a wallet for testing can get some reasonable amount: http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/
04:47 < waxwing> https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/4vm2h9/volunteers_for_testnet_testing_of_020_version/
04:47 < waxwing> belcher_: i'll fix up that add-utxo thing now
04:47 < waxwing> adlai: any more info?
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06:30 < nkuttler> waxwing: one sec
06:32 < nkuttler> hrm, not enough counterparties to fill order, ending
06:32 < nkuttler> i have two yigens, and you too?
06:33 < waxwing> yeah
06:33 < nkuttler> just sent it directly anyway
06:33 < waxwing> thanks. investigating.
06:36 < nkuttler> i think it was too many counterparites. but with fewer theres not enough liquidity 
06:37 < waxwing> nkuttler: no i think it's nick signature verification failure again, the thing i "fixed" last time :)
06:37 < waxwing> just tried one, i think it's the bot you have with the long orderline
06:38 < nkuttler> ?
06:38 < nkuttler> is my code not up to date again?
06:38 < waxwing> no, it presumably means that my code fix didn't cover all cases
06:38 < nkuttler> ah, ok :)
06:38 < waxwing> J57 is the one i think
06:39 < waxwing> it sends an order announcement over two lines, i thought i'd fixed it, maybe i just fixed it from one pov and not another
06:40 < nkuttler> J57, J5C
06:41 < nkuttler> i don't understand why sendpayment never seems to exit though, seemt to stay in the channel after [DEBUG]  ERROR not enough liquidity in the orderbook, exiting
06:41 < nkuttler> seems
06:41 < waxwing> yeah i figured it out. the previous fix handled the case where the signature crossed over to the 2nd line, but in that case the actual message crosses over to the second line, i think my code didn't handle that
06:41 < nkuttler> ah, great
06:41 < waxwing> nkuttler: so it never quit?
06:41 < waxwing> mine quit after a short wait
06:41 < nkuttler> nope, still in there
06:42 < nkuttler> [DEBUG]  <<pubmsg nick=waxwing message=!orderbook
06:42 < waxwing> i can vaguely imagine that condition might happen because a thread crashed
06:42 < waxwing> but i'll just fix the specific bug here and let  you know when it's done
06:42 < nkuttler> ok
06:42 < nkuttler> never mind, i can just kill it
06:42 < waxwing> ie feel free to kill it
06:42 < waxwing> yeah
06:52 < waxwing> nkuttler: what i said above is not right. that's not the cause of the bug. could you send me the logfile of the J57 bot?
06:55 < waxwing> ah, i think i know what it is, if so pretty dumb: what port do you connect to cgan over?
06:59  * waxwing reflects on his monumental idiocy
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07:06 < waxwing> need an actual unique IRC server identifier, not just 'servername+port'
07:10 < nkuttler> port = 6697
07:12 < waxwing> nkuttler: thanks. and servername?
07:12 < nkuttler> 6dvj6v5imhny3anf.onion
07:12 < waxwing> right, that's it :)
07:12 < waxwing> does an IRC server report back a globally consistent name on login?
07:13 < waxwing> otherwise it's going to be tricky to get replay defence. i couldn't think of another way. a timestamp would be icky.
07:13 < waxwing> and, hmm kind of rubbish too.
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08:45 < waxwing> well, unless someone can come up with a better idea, i'll just add a 'hostid' field to the config, which can be the basename of the clearnet server (so cyberguerrilla for cgan, even if coming via onion). annoying but i see nothing else.
09:22 < waxwing> Guest13: ah that's you too i guess, this is the best place :)
09:42 < waxwing> nkuttler: no rush but update and set 'hostid' field according to explanation here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/blob/e63f83fe9c81c26cef89182b091998edbe0ed7a1/joinmarket/configure.py#L112-L115
09:42 < waxwing> annoying but i see no alternative for now
09:43 < waxwing> i just tested it out, seems fine once that's set
10:28 < waxwing> Guest13: hi
10:28 < waxwing> yes secp256k1 is a requirement; what OS are you on?
10:29 < Guest13> ubuntu
10:29 < waxwing> ok, should be alright, but usually you need to do a bunch of apt-gets
10:29 < Guest13> tried a bunch take my word for it
10:30 < waxwing> on the front page of https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket
10:30 < waxwing> see the bit that says (optional, recommended): Install the libsecp256k1 Python library:
10:30 < waxwing> and see in that paragraph there's a link to https://github.com/ludbb/secp256k1-py#installation
10:30 < waxwing> and then in that, you see "On Debian/Ubuntu for example.."
10:30 < waxwing> it lists: 
10:30 < waxwing>     build-essential
10:30 < waxwing>     automake
10:30 < waxwing>     pkg-config
10:30 < waxwing>     libtool
10:30 < waxwing>     libffi-dev
10:30 < waxwing>     libgmp-dev
10:31 < waxwing> you need those (you might be able to do without libgmp-dev, not sure)
10:31 < waxwing> to be clear, you might not need these if you have Bitcoin Core installed on the system
10:31 < Guest13> not using core
10:32 < Guest13> use that for my real btc
10:32 < waxwing> yep, so you'll need to do that ; sudo apt-get those ^
10:32 < Guest13> thought I would try to help you guys out quickly
10:32 < waxwing> hey don't worry about it, it's entirely normal to find it's all a bit of a hassle, i won't be offended if you don't have time :)
10:33 < waxwing> i think this is a lot easier for people already joinmarket-ing :)
10:34 < Guest13> I will fix it tomorrow but the bot is running no?
10:34 < Guest13> also how do I get it run on different irc servers
10:35 < Guest13> host = irc.cyberguerrilla.org, chat.freenode.net, irc.rizon.net
10:35 < Guest13> if I try this in the cfg file it just bombs
10:35 < waxwing> yes, like that, but: stop the bot now, it's not on the 0.2.0 branch
10:36 < waxwing> you need to do "git checkout 0.2.0" to be running the new code (if you git cloned)
10:36 < nkuttler> hm, blockr.io should do testnet tx, shouldn't it? Exception: {"status":"fail","data":"Could not push your transaction!","code":500,"message":"Did you sign your transaction?"}
10:36 < Guest13> you mean I have the wrong joinmarket code?
10:36 < nkuttler> i guess i should use my local bitcoind..
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10:36 < Guest13> hang on
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10:37 < waxwing> nkuttler: blockr should be fine
10:37 < waxwing> i've done 5-10 already with it
10:37 < waxwing> the trick is to be talking to bots that are actually running the same code as you, heh :)
10:38 < waxwing> sorry it's been a bit frenetic, it'll calm down soon i hope
10:38 < waxwing> dont feel you have to be perfectly up to date, i know it's a hassle, i can always do txs with my own counterparties with -P
10:38 < nkuttler> waxwing: do you mean me?
10:39 < nkuttler> i received sigs from all makers
10:39 < waxwing> nkuttler: not sure, i guess they were general comments
10:39 < nkuttler> ok :)
10:39 < waxwing> although i don't understand that one it's weird
10:39 < waxwing> so yeah i take your question, how did that happen i wonder
10:39 < nkuttler> let me try again. could be a blockr error i guess
10:39 < waxwing> could be i guess.
10:40 < nkuttler> yep, went through now
10:40 < nkuttler> \o/ my first joinmarket testnet tx
10:41 < waxwing> are you connecting to blockr over Tor?
10:41 < nkuttler> i guess now i'll try to hook my faucet into it
10:41 < nkuttler> not sure tbh
10:41 < nkuttler> i have tor in the MESSAGING section
10:41 < nkuttler> socks proxy etc
10:41 < waxwing> i guess not
10:42 < waxwing> just uses urllib2 or something in bci.py
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10:43 < nkuttler> i think i'll try to use the python code directly for the faucet, not call sendpayment through a subprocess or somesuch
10:43 < waxwing> Guest13: yes it was on the wrong code, the reason i know is that you had the old format of bot nickname. new ones are "J5..."
10:43 < waxwing> nkuttler: yes you can do that, obv needs a bit of work.
10:44 < nkuttler> might be good if people who request testnet coins also hear about jm at the same time
10:44 < nkuttler> anyway, need to write the code first
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10:44 < Guest13> if I try git checkout it gives me grief about saving or stashing
10:44 < Guest13> I can delete the entire directory
10:45 < Guest13> and reinstall
10:45 < nkuttler> sure, just preserve .git
10:45 < Guest13> its a test machine so no biggy
10:45 < nkuttler> or, what's the actual error?
10:45 < waxwing> Guest13: it depends on whether you want to save your changes
10:46 < waxwing> if you don't, just do git checkout . and it'll wipe them
10:46 < waxwing> if you do, do "git stash". then git checkout 0.2.0
10:46 < waxwing> then "git stash apply" re-applies those changes
10:46 < Guest13> ag I tried git stash 
10:46 < waxwing> nkuttler: there are a few examples like this function: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/blob/0.2.0/test/test_podle.py#L104
10:46 < Guest13> got so crap about my email address
10:46 < waxwing> that might give you some ideas about how to run it in python.
10:47 < waxwing> Guest13: that stuff is just there if you ever want to upload code to github, you probably don't so don't worry about it
10:47 < waxwing> hmm i didn't realise it asked you that if you're just doing 'stash'.
10:48 < Guest13> on a different machine to this one
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10:49 < Guest13> Happy to just wipe directory only thing is cfg file
10:49 < Guest13> quick to change
10:49 < waxwing> yes that makes sense 
10:49 < Guest13> but how can I make sure I get ver 0.2.0
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10:49 < waxwing> git fetch; git checkout 0.2.0 i think should cover it
10:50 < waxwing> not sure if you need to do fetch, probably not
10:50 < Guest13> let me try
10:50 < waxwing> to make sure you're on the right code, do "git log"
10:50 < waxwing> the top line should read "commit e63f83fe9c81c26cef89182b091998edbe0ed7a1"
10:51 < waxwing> but hang on, have you got secp256k1 installed now?
11:00 < waxwing> just installed fresh on a ubuntu1404 vm, pip install secp256k1 installed secp256k1-0.13 binding OK and latest 0.2.0 branch yg seemed to start OK.
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11:31 < Guest13> ok think its fine now
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11:32 < Guest13> got sep256k1 installed 
11:32 < waxwing> cool, you're on cgan right?
11:32 < Guest13> no freenode?
11:32 < waxwing> yes, i guess you used defaults. good stuff.
11:32 < Guest13> think j57.. is me
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11:33 < waxwing> Guest13: i think J5Eb
11:33 < waxwing> i'm both the J57 I think
11:33 < waxwing> yes
11:34 < waxwing> i'll try and do a test tx with you
11:35 < Guest13> I am on freenode I am not seeing anything but j57
11:36 < waxwing> Guest13: i'm 90% sure your bot is only on cyberguerrilla
11:36 < waxwing> those 2 are mine
11:36 < waxwing> (J57)
11:36 < waxwing> can you tell me what you have for "hostid" in joinmarket.cfg?
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11:37 < Guest13> ok just saw something about j55e not sure if thats me
11:37 < Guest13> hang on its in another room
11:37 < waxwing> oh i see j55e now
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11:39 < waxwing> i think your bot is not quite right; again, what do you have for hostid, and also host, in joinmarket.cfg?
11:41 < Guest13> hostid is freenode and host is irc.cyberguerrilla.org
11:41 < waxwing> Guest13: ok, hostid should be cyberguerrilla then
11:41 < waxwing> if you just have 1 in each field
11:41 < waxwing> they should match up, btw i updated the reddit post to show an example with 3 servers
11:41 < waxwing> host = irc.cyberguerrilla.org, chat.freenode.net, irc.rizon.net
11:41 < waxwing> hostid = cyberguerrilla, freenode, rizon
11:42 < waxwing> or if just 1, then host=irc.cyberguerrilla.org and hostid=cyberguerrilla
11:42 < waxwing> i know it's annoying but there's no easy alternative for now.
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11:44 < Guest13> okay let me fix it
11:46 < ibar> hi, - just setting up joinmarket 2.0 and need help funding a test wallet address. Couldn't get the faucet to work. Anyone here can help? Address is 1KKrcfUGkUspB4sc1ipW5Ug8iRpCogSZDz
11:46 < waxwing> ibar: sure, hang on
11:46 < waxwing> oh you might want a testnet address :)
11:47 < ibar> How do I generate a testnet address? with the wallet-tools.py?
11:47 < waxwing> ibar: yup. do "python wallet-tool.py insertmyrandomphrasethatiremember"
11:48 < waxwing> it'll generate a joinmarket wallet, then just choose any "external" address from there
11:49 < ibar> That's what I've tried. Output looks like this: D:\JoinMarket\joinmarket-0.2.0\joinmarket-0.2.0>wallet-tool.py wtest.json 2016-08-01 21:27:55,874 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  hello joinmarket Enter wallet decryption passphrase: 2016-08-01 21:28:16,403 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  downloading wallet history 2016-08-01 21:28:27,431 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  blockr sync_unspent took 4.99199986458sec mixing depth 0 m/0/0/  external addresses m/0/0/0
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11:50 < Guest13> okay its up, I can see it on freenode I recognize my ip
11:50 < waxwing> guest13: http://tbtc.blockr.io/tx/info/4cc609521296cc5c45b96505de7744ef6f1d3488c42bbf55516fc42072d1ce51
11:50 < waxwing> yay
11:50 < Guest13> j55x
11:50 < waxwing> yes, you were part of that :)
11:50 < Guest13> gotta run , hope this helps you, I can leave it running
11:51 < waxwing> yes absolutely, thanks, pls update tomorrow (shut down, git pull origin 0.2.0, then restart)
11:51 < Guest13> Will try to get it running on other irc tomorrow
11:51 < waxwing> sure, either way
11:51 < Guest13> cool
11:51 < waxwing> ibar: did you set the joinmarket.cfg to "testnet"?
11:51 < Guest13> by the way a big thanks for this
11:51 < waxwing> don't use .json, we just use like said above
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11:56 < waxwing> ibar: see (d) and (f) in the list of steps on the reddit post, set network to testnet in the cfg, then start with a random passphrase -> will show list of testnet addresses, then you can post one and i'll pay into it
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11:57 < ibar> yes - its on testnet. Tried again. How do testnet addresses look like?
11:57 < waxwing> start with m or n
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12:03 < pigeons> might be interesting https://z.cash/blog/bolt-private-payment-channels.html
12:03 < waxwing> yeah,noticed the post. i haven't a chance in hell of understanding it at the moment, i barely got anything from skimming the Bolt paper.
12:04 < pigeons> ok, same boat here
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12:32 < OverlordQ> Posted on the thread but leave message in here too, should use testnet-in-a-box and just setup a private network for testing. Avoid having to duplicate the testnet blockchain and can generate 10k coins easy to play with large joins
12:32 < waxwing> OverlordQ: we use regtest extensively for testing. but for testing real-life scenarios need a real network with people
12:33 < waxwing> every commit i run the build test which tests ~ 85 cases at the moment, it includes regtest bitcoin and miniircd for the irc servers
12:33 < waxwing> the reason this is different is the protocol changes, and especially the commitments. just not good enough imo to do only local testing.
12:37 < waxwing> there's also the matter of scale: what i want to do is, once there's at least 10 or so different bots, on multiple IRC servers, is try an attacker bot that repeats our existing attacker behaviour and see how much data it can collect over a long-ish time scale. but that's quite ambitious, even if don't get a really good scenario set up, can at least test if the commitments function OK in a large scale heterogeneous network.
13:39 < OverlordQ> You can still use regtest and make a network 
13:40 < waxwing> oh, i'm sorry, was unaware. but wouldn't it be a bit difficult to coordinate that?
13:40 < OverlordQ> not much in addition to setting up another bitcoind node for testnet
13:41 < waxwing> i think doing it this way is easier. it also allows blockr bots, which is a lot less hassle for people.
13:41 < OverlordQ> true
13:42 < waxwing> your concern about coin sizes is fairly easily addressed in the current tests
13:42 < waxwing> i think it's a good point, there isn't enough range of sizes in the tests anywhere i think
13:42 < waxwing> i think most of the "end to end" tests just use silly numbers like 1,2,3
13:43 < OverlordQ> 10000 coins *evil laugh*
13:43 < waxwing> yeah, heh, for some reason in the regtest code i put >500 = "too greedy" :)
13:44 < OverlordQ> Took me longer to setup another ec2 instance than to test to see if regtest works remotely lol
13:45 < OverlordQ> it actually would be hard to clone the Testnet-in-a-box repo and modify it to be a joinmarket-2.0-test-in-a-box as long as somebody was willing to be the master node
13:48 < OverlordQ> *wouldn't
13:48 < waxwing> yeah i agree it's viable, although i don't want to do it right now, and also the blockr thing
13:49 < OverlordQ> I know, but I like pointless bikeshedding tasks
13:49 < waxwing> one thing you won't find me arguing - regtest is cool. absolutely invaluable actually...
13:50 < OverlordQ> 2
13:50 < OverlordQ> oops
14:23 < waxwing> https://joinmarket.me/blog/blog/joinmarket-020-changes/ - alreadly stupidly long, but i need to write at least 1 more :)
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15:46 < ibar> I got a test setup running yg-deluxe, but my wallet is empty (address is mj2ySzmJvMYkTjUhmmsR65yXac2KkDM48D) I tried the faucet 15 min ago but still no show.
15:47 < belcher> sec, iv got some testnet coins
15:55 < ibar> OK,got some coin.  How do I see my yg is running on testnet?  
15:55 < ibar> Last log line is "connected to IRC and joined channel"
15:56 < belcher> looks right, though without any testnet coins it probably didnt announce any orders
16:02 < ibar> belcher: showing your coin. thanks. restarted yg, but getting same last line, but doesn't seem to generate offers. Can you see it?
16:03 < belcher> showing my coin? i didnt send anything yet
16:03 < belcher> maybe thats the faucet
16:05 < nkuttler> what's "Cannot construct transaction, failed to generate commitment, shutting down."
16:05 < ibar> I'm seeing 10.17btc. I received 0.17 from faucet. Assumed 10 from you. Can you see offers from my yg-deluxe? Not sure it's functioning
16:06 < nkuttler> ibar: 10 from me
16:07 < ibar> Got it. Thanks nkuttler. 
16:07 < belcher> ibar wasnt me
16:07 < nkuttler> just sent 10 through jm, but sending 0.1 fails with that error..
16:08 < nkuttler> the line above says waiting for all replies with timeout 30, but it immediately gives that error and exits
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22:22 < waxwing> nkuttler: that's the new "feature" (anti-feature?). see the second part of the blog post where it describes the three conditions on utxos and see what might be causing it to fail
22:33 < waxwing> seems highly likely that it was the age restriction, but i'm interested to know what your wallet looked like at that point.