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01:36 < waxwing> i'm still hoping that someone will do the investigation that finds out exactly which IRC servers supporting Tor we could use
01:36 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ use for what? ג'וד
01:36 < waxwing> (not the 'which IRC servers allow Tor', I think that's been done, but the 'which IRC server can i actually confirm you can run a bot on over Tor and/or using a hidden service)
01:36 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ also h ג'וד
01:37 < waxwing> opal, the new version which is in testing now supports connecting to multiple servers
01:37 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ ah cool ג'וד
01:37 < waxwing> yield generators will want to connect to "all" (in some sense), so they see all connecting Takers
01:38 < waxwing> but since a large proportion of yield generators prefer Tor connections, that requires that the "standard set" of IRC servers we want to tell people about must all support Tor
01:38 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ well i run a network on clearnet/tor/i2p, and i dont think i would mind a pit ג'וד
01:39 < waxwing> to be clear, people can configure any server they want, but for coordination purposes it's difficult to avoid saying "here's the standard 3 servers everyone can use"
01:39 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ ya ג'וד
01:39 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ im trying to think of the technical considerations behind allowing it ג'וד
01:40 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ due to flood limits ג'וד
01:40 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ flood limits in pm anyway ג'וד
01:42 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ anyway i would be willing to help since i do have onion access and have never blocked tor once ג'וד
01:42 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ i've blocked tor exits before but that's the extent of it, never touched the onions ג'וד
01:43 < waxwing> opal, which server do you run?
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ i know oftc is more bipolar ג'וד
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ ratbox ג'וד
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ or do you mean what network ג'וד
01:43 < waxwing> sure network
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ https://volatile.ch / https://vola7ileiax4ueow.onion ג'וד
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ there's info about it ג'וד
01:43 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ around fifty users steady, been going for two years, plenty stable ג'וד
01:44 < waxwing> ok thanks.
01:44 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ np ג'וד
01:45 < waxwing> if anyone wants to try connecting a YG bot over there pls report back
01:45 < waxwing> afk
01:45 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] ✡ cya ג'וד
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02:07 < opal> ✡ h ג'וד
02:07 < opal> ✡ more people over here lol ג'וד
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02:34 < fluffypony> opal: what's with the symbols / colours on your text
02:35 < opal> ✡ it's liberating ג'וד
02:36 < fluffypony> lol
02:37 < fluffypony> reminds me of the few months where I tried mIRC with some crazy plugin
02:37 < opal> ✡ heh ג'וד
02:37 < opal> ✡ weechat here, no mirc ג'וד
02:37 < opal> ✡ dont understand how anyone could use mirc but oh well ג'וד
02:38 < opal> ✡ i wrote this script, working on another ג'וד
02:38 < fluffypony> I was forced to use Windows 2000 for work
02:38 < opal> ✡ arguably the one im working on is more useful ג'וד
02:38 < opal> ✡ ouch ג'וד
02:39 < opal> ✡ nice version ג'וד
02:39 < opal> ✡ almost believable after what you said lol ג'וד
02:40 < fluffypony> lol
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03:30 < opal> ✡ nn ג'וד
04:39 < waxwing> fluffypony: it comes up aas hebrew here i think :)
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05:53 < waxwing> http://tbtc.blockr.io/tx/info/e7abaff6b2f1561dbc34fd55962935affcebea4e26f3accede40849f79ed7d4d
05:53 < waxwing> i think about 4-5 more bots and we can start heavier tests.
05:54 < waxwing> hmm forgot what i was going to do next, got distracted by mimblewimble :)
05:57 < fluffypony> oh you're right, waxwing - had a utf-8 issue, fixed that and now it shows up as "Jude" in Hebrew
07:08 < nkuttler> i guess it's time to up my -N 2
07:11 < nkuttler> so meager https://tbtc.blockr.io/tx/info/fc68c3c74394b5d2667fc5ba51faa3e05ea2432ed5448d8c1e15ba52bb3fe0b5
07:14 < waxwing> nkuttler: meh, it's OK. maybe keep conservative for now.
07:15 < waxwing> waitingfortestnetblocks.skeleton.jpg
07:23 < nkuttler> already removed it, i'll see what happens
07:23 < waxwing> removed? you mean changed -N 2?
07:23 < nkuttler> yeah
08:19 < nkuttler> went through, https://tbtc.blockr.io/tx/info/62247130dd013bb3bf4d71a1272bb931ff0d90973fd92ce6623ed62f0f64b03a \o/
08:47 < OverlordQ> if I wasn't too lazy to put up a testnet node :(
08:48 < nkuttler> is it normal that i have to restart whatever jm script i'm using all the time?
08:48 < nkuttler> seems to happen more often now than at the beginning
08:58 < waxwing> not for yield generators, no
08:59 < waxwing> at least not in my experience
09:01 < OverlordQ> what's the cgan host?
09:07 < waxwing> OverlordQ: irc.cyberguerrilla.org clearnet, HS is in the default config somewhere
09:09 < OverlordQ> oh, weird, DNS isn't resolving for it
09:11 < nkuttler> guerilla with one r i think
09:15 < waxwing> no, it's 2
09:27 < nkuttler> yeah, resolves for me
09:29 < waxwing> OverlordQ: you don't have to set up a testnet node, you can use blockr
09:29 < waxwing> it *might* be less reliable, hard to be definitive
09:53 < waxwing> probably the right thing: yg makes one offer only, for max value = max in biggest mixdepth; reannounce will not happen for values < max of second largest, if cjout goes to different mixdepth than maxmixdepth .. thus reannouncements are minimized.
09:59 < waxwing> this algo will tend to de-concentrate coins
10:23 < waxwing> raedah not here unfortunately, does anyone have good knowledge about how *oscillator works?
10:24 < waxwing> ok from comments it reacts to your own transactions, which makes sense, that's not helping with what i'm looking for
10:25 < pigeons> I do not, but side-note, I cannot use oscillator at all lately, I get every transaction failing with something i posted earlier about inputs too small
10:25 < waxwing> ah OK. raedah's the guy for this, can't help right now. i'm looking for a more privacy-preserving algo.
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23:51 < waxwing> good read: http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257
23:56 < waxwing> whereas this one is not just a good read but genuinely hilarious: https://medium.com/friendship-dot-js/i-peeked-into-my-node-modules-directory-and-you-wont-believe-what-happened-next-b89f63d21558#.70yag96uy
23:57 < waxwing> oh it was all a joke, well played :)